Welcome to the A. C. C. Panic room alongside Lauren Brownlow. I'm joe aguilas and Roy day here at the smith center ended like a lot of other days where Roy Williams has been here for an N. C. State north Carolina game absolute domination by the tar heels. It was pretty wild like you and I had a discussion between each other like early about like okay is this just where States not playing well early or is this more of the same? What did I tell you? I thought it was more of the same in terms of state being in Chapel Hill and like I say that because there's been plenty of times that state has come that I have felt like they are either the better team or just as good and it has not better. No it hasn't mattered. Um And I think that's the part that I'm still trying to process as to what I just watched N. C. State has followed a pattern this year. Just like north Carolina has followed a pattern this year. Each of those patterns was out the window this afternoon in Chapel Hill and it did look like most times that we've seen N. C. State in north Carolina play when Roy Williams is in the house you know and shout out to our guy Brett Thompson from ESPN who did use the marvel cinematic universe Jeff of like here's north Carolina with the full on Avengers the 82 teams here. Roy Williams is getting honored like it was just all this pomp and circumstance and the team clearly Which has had some issues this season wasn't going to have like a letdown with all the other things going on. I know Brady manic talked about how the environment today is the big reason why he wanted to come to North Carolina and then having Michael Jordan courtside as he put it took it to another 30 times higher. Right? So in a lot of ways e me for not seeing what was obviously in front of me for this matchup and thinking that what I had seen going into the game was going to play out a little bit more than N. C. State was going to fight that north Carolina was gonna have some offensive issues. There was gonna be a lot of defense playing this game. Almost thought that he still had a good chance to win this game out the window completely. It's the old talking heads same as it ever was. I mean I thought that there was a chance for that for sure but at the same time and I was kind of curious like okay not here how old the dynamic but I'm like this is Roy's chance for one last flex and he got out there They were beat them by 25, they hit 10 threes it was ridiculous and he got out there at halftime after his and took the time to say like beat him by more and I was like do the words people I think are they maintain this simultaneous sense of being like, please leave us alone with also like he hates us. Like we hate them. They've always liked that about load, but they're still like, okay, you're not here anymore. Can you please leave us alone? You've made your now. I think, um, I'm trying to think about like how things are gonna go going forward and and that's kind of where I'm at right now. After this. I like kevin Keats. I think there's a lot of context to what's going on during the kevin Keats tenure here at NC State, including the N C double A. And the I. R. And having that hang over you and everything else. But that being said, I've been doing this way too long to not understand the dynamics of what happens when you have games like this and when you have embarrassments like this, like in some States and it's gonna be really difficult to impossible friends and state fans to race. All the things that we talked about going forward. All the joy and frivolity that north Carolina was having at the expensive of State biscuits this team. Because the other thing that plays into what happened today is that this is not a particularly good north Carolina squad, right? And we've seen that in the past, right? Like 2020 was Carolina's worse than a while. They swept him swept state like we go back years and years. And that's just been a common theme to like in the years where state has like some of its best chances or should you think they could steal one along the way? They haven't been able to do it. No. N. C. State coach in the history of NC State coach has been able to get beyond losing to north Carolina in situations where you have opportunities to beat north Carolina and this season and what happened here was an opportunity. But that's the thing. I think if it doesn't play out like today though, different like 10 point loss, okay. You fight throughout, you know, you follow the pattern you followed all year. I don't think we're talking like this, but that's not what happened. I mean, Carolina came out from the jump, got out to a double digit lead before like five minutes and it was just, it was like I said to you when puff johnson made his first three, I was like, we're done here, we're done and that's nothing. No disrespected profits just like between that and everything else. I was like, we are just done here and you know, unfortunately we might be talking about it being done for kevin. So we'll see, I mean there's still plenty of season left. We'll see how the thing goes. Be curious to see how blue poured in the handles it in the offseason about potential coaching staff or whatever it might be. Instead of keep giving them an opportunity to get better now that the N C double A stuff is beyond them. But I get back to one central thing I've been doing this way too damn long to not know how these things typically go. And it's really hard for any coach in any robbery situation to come back from a day. Like today, it sucks for keith, but it's tough for anybody to come back from that Now. North Carolina going forward. I don't know. I don't know what today is an anomaly in the way that it is today that I think it's a complete anomaly and then I can talk today. This means going forward. I have no idea. It's not necessarily an anomaly. There haven't been a good to point out like that, but they've been missing more than they usually like at the beginning of the year. They're getting way more, they have better shooters than they've shown they no, that was an overcorrection. Okay to be clear. But I mean, the one thing I think north Carolina can use this for the way forward is just, you know, they got through, I mean they got coming up like this is a chance for the younger guys who have not been in a full building yet for a game like this and this was, I mean, I know people holding up boston College wasn't that well attended. Well it's gonna be cool next week. And then that's one thing about Duke and that's one thing about Duke won today against Louisville. Louisville fighting a little bit after the chris mack dismissal. But this is now Duke for as much talent as they have. And even without Trevor keels, who should be coming back here relatively soon, they have found themselves in closer games than we initially thought they were going to find themselves in against teams that we don't traditionally think it's tough out. That Louisville team has been listed as a bad squad. Coaching changes side the Clemson to get that usually a tough out with Clemson. But again, you've got, you've got the talent. You know how I feel about it now. I know you and I have a different opinion when it comes to brad Brownell and when he's tasked with Clemson point is, there was some growth in the way they won that game against Clemson and they did get into a chippy contest today against little one and then there's something to be said about that. But you know, if you asked me earlier in the week, what I thought that the north Carolina Duke game is going to be like, I'd be like, yeah, forget it. We're just going to run away with it. But We're seeing a little bit of a difference. What did I do? What I told you was this? Right. Duke is an elite defensive team. I still believe that they won that game because of defense, I think Louisville, I think I calculate it was like two of their last 17. I mean it's not that good. Still impressive right? But Duke goes through droughts. Like they go through droughts where they don't run off its smell or don't, I mean I'm not saying Carolina doesn't, but I just think Carolina has better shooters overall than Duke does. They have size, although not as much as you want to be when you're playing a team like Duke, but they have some size. They have guys that can shoot like I'm not saying that they're going to win, I wouldn't predict necessarily. I'm just saying like I do go through dry spells to like and if you can't defend, if somebody gets in foul trouble to like that's important to them. I mean, anything can happen like Duke is not invincible and partially because they're not an elite offensive team yet. Let's gonna wrap it up for this edition of the A. C. C. Panic room. Doing something different with my life. I can say we haven't done one of these. That's just the bleachers. The risers being folded up. Okay, we have one of these in a long time. I haven't been here. It's been two years. Last time I was here, we were doing battle vision sunglasses in, in february february 25th 2020 we got to break out the potato peeler next. Just don't make me do an accent. I'm not doing no, that's problematic. We can't have that happen anyway. We will see you all later in the week.