You go. Well, but when you have those struggles, you kind of, that's when adversity comes, that's when you really have to see like what you're made of as a team. And that's, I mean, a huge part of what happened to us. We had our adversity, we went through that, but instead of kind of giving up instead of crumpling instead of saying, well, this is it, this is our season. We kind of came together and we said, look, we know the type of team, it can be, we know what we can all do if we come together and that's what we did in the AC C tournament. And we've kept it going until now. How surreal. Step off the plane in Phoenix. How cool is that? Knowing what the team has been through? It is very cool. It is incredible to come to see all that. The, the Arizona heat, see the mountains in the distance. I mean, it's, it's definitely, it was just, it seemed like the, the world was in a different light almost. But I mean, it, it was definitely incredible. When did you realize that DJ Burns was kind of a, uh pretty sure when I came on my visit to NC State on and I met him for the first time. Hon. Honestly, that's not even true if I had my freshman year playing against Clemson. I mean, but, uh, but no, I mean, I definitely, especially now getting to know him as a person. He is, he is definitely a unique guy man. I love him and he's the best. He's, he's a, he is a one of a kind and what made you realize that he is one of a kind, he is, he is his own, his own man, so to speak a little bit different. Uh I mean, honestly, I think it's just the way he carries himself the way he kind of handles everything. I mean, obviously, especially now with the attention that he's gotten. I mean, I mean, it's easy for a guy like that to get him over his head and kinda lo lose perspective of it. But I mean, not he, he seems to, I mean, I'll give him credit. I mean, he has not lost perspective. He seems to be the same dude I met and I saw him as in the, in the college room about a year ago when I came here. I mean, just making jokes and lightening the mood and bringing everybody up. You guys have you guys grow, not for sure, not for sure. I mean, that's my guy man. I mean, I mean, we're with each other just about every single day, whether it's on or off the court doing something or other. So no, he definitely has become, I mean, someone I definitely can look up to and try and emulate for sure. Can you take me back to transfer portal? You were oh sorry. Can you take me back to the transfer portal conversations you were in and what that was like in? Why you decided to come here? For sure, for sure. I mean, obviously, uh after deciding to, to leave my old school, it was definitely a huge problem. I mean, it was uh a lot, I mean, the, the, the number, I mean, schools at every level of, I mean, everywhere across the country, I mean, where it was d one, I mean, d two calling, whatever it was, I mean, there were a lot to handle. I mean, eventually we got, it narrowed down to Auburn and NC State and then, uh, visited both. I mean, honestly, it really was just the staff and the players here that, that really kinda, kinda made that decision easy. I mean, just kind of felt like as soon as I got here, it just felt like it was a good place and it felt like, felt like somewhere I could kind of call home for a couple of years. And what's it like with some of you guys being transfers on this team? Uh What do you mean by that? Like just you know, almost a whole starting fiber transfers. It's kind of like a unique, modern kind of thing, you know, for sure, for sure. Uh, it definitely is tough and I mean, you wouldn't expect this but, I mean, for some reason it just seems to have kind of turned into a strength for us. I don't really know why that is, but I mean, obviously we've had struggles we had, again, we've had that adversity, but I don't think there's a lot of teams out there. I mean, there's been teams of guys who have played together 34 years. I mean, kind of stacking together and building like that and I mean, we haven't had that, but I feel like we're closer. We have just as much chemistry as anybody out there and compete with can compete with anybody out there. What happened to this team? You go 9, 11 in conference play, you get through the tournament and here you are in the final four. What happened with this team? What's going on? What's your say about this team? Uh Honestly, I wouldn't say anything. I mean, drastic happened, I think we didn't know all year. We could be a good team. We had that potential. Uh We just kept on, we had to similar mistakes, kept on coming up. We had the similar issues that kept on kind of rearing their heads, but we kinda came into that AC C tournament saying like we know what we can do. We know that the skill we have the potential that we have, we lock in. If we fix these things and we come together, we can make a run here and, and it's gotten us this far. A lot of the co of this team. Right. Yes, sir. What's it like being here now? Oh, it's incredible. It's incredible. You seem to kind of have the opportunity to do it here to do it with these guys. Do it for NC State, man. It's, it's, I can't even put it to words. What's it like coming into Arizona? See here. What's it like? Just being in Arizona seeing it when you got? It's incredible. It's incredible, man. I mean, the, the weather, I mean, it feels a little bit like I'm from Florida so I get the heat makes me feel a little bit more like home, which is nice. But uh no, man, it's awesome. A Z is a special place for sure. I'm looking forward to, looking forward to enjoying it, playing some games here. You impressed with how they decorated everything? Absolutely. Absolutely. I, I haven't seen too much like this before. What's it like? Seeing your uncle Danny? Can I get so much attention during this run? It's awesome. It's awesome. That's uh I definitely love, he had a couple of little shirts made talking about Ben Middle brooks' uncle, which were hilarious. So shout out for that. But now he's the best. He's the best. He's always been, been supporting me, kind of sending, sending texts to me throughout the season, things like that. I mean, he's always kinda been been kind of talking in my ear a little bit behind the scenes, just kind of see him coming out to these games having a good time and everything like that, man. It's awesome. I love it. Especially getting his little girls out here too. You ever play quarterback? Uh, a little bit back in the day. I was more of a, I was more of a tight end though, so I was, I was more of a receiver. Now, are your parents athletes? Uh, uh, not really, no, no offense to them but no, everyone in my, everyone else in my, all of my siblings are though. So that's, that's a bonus. Different sports too, which is kind of fun. What do they play in? What level? Oldest brother played baseball in college? Uh, other brother, uh, didn't, could have played golf in college, chose not to sister played tennis in college and here I am with basketball and you're a guy that's really embraced your role. I feel like you're a huge X factor for this team. How did you go about doing that? And how do you see it develop? Absolutely. I mean, I've always kind of been a, tried to be a, a high energy type of guy. I mean, bring energy, pick up the team. I mean, be a be a kind of spark play out there. And I mean, and again, always try to be AAA defensive defensive help to the team. And so, I mean, obviously when you have so many guys in a team like this who can score, you can do so many different things. I really just try and try and find those weaknesses that we have, try and find the things that we don't have and, and, and, and fill those spots if I need to. You feel like you guys are unique to play against with, you know, you got burns, obviously, then you got Horn and then you can rotate all these pigs. Absolutely. No, I think with, with the weapons that we have, I mean, obviously both of the DJ S are fantastic. Scores can do so many different things, but I feel like the level that they can score it off all makes it kind of makes people overlook all the other people we have on this team. I mean, Jaden Taylor, I mean, we have Michael o'connell. I mean, we have all these guys who can really score the ball and score the ball in different ways too. Casey Marcell is another one. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's just, I think no matter who we're playing, we're gonna have match ups on the court, we're gonna have ways we can expose the other team. And I think, and I think that's what we're gonna be, keep doing. Are you ready to defend Zack Edie? Absolutely. Absolutely, man. I'm excited. What are you, what are you, what's your strategy? Uh, man, trying to, trying to get him out of the comfort zone, trying to keep him out of the paint and just have a good time. He'll be quiet. He thought he'd be quiet. Yeah, I figure it out and we'll be all right. I've got a DJ burns, so it's, I've got a DJ burns every day. So I feel like if anyone could be, could be a good preparation for it, he'd be a good one to, to match up. Well, thanks a lot. Ben.