Well, I, I wanted to ask you since, you know, we weren't expecting to get you today and, uh, since you hopped on with us, um, obviously the NC A took the step yesterday to, to name you and, and the people at UN C and sort of, um, I guess pursuing a public apr campaign against them. And what were their words, uh, troubled by violent and possibly criminal threats? Uh, it's a pretty sharp statement they came out with, uh, how did that land with you? And, uh, I mean, what would your response to, to all of that be? Well, I, I totally respect the, the chairman of the, uh, division one committee, uh, standing up for the volunteers and his staff and, and that's what we all do and if somebody is, is, uh, uh, harassing the staff, threatening the staff or has wronged the staff, then that's wrong and that should stop and it should stop immediately. And, um, uh, you, you don't want to create mental health problems for those families and, and the people that are involved because they're trying to do their job. So, uh, absolutely wrong and I absolutely agree with him and that's exactly the same reason that, uh, the administration and I, uh, stood up for Tez Walker because we thought he was wrong and, and we felt like that, uh, um, he was treated poorly. Uh, it increased the, the stress for mental health. Uh, we had a player this morning, a freshman that was late and, um, I've been coaching a long time and when one doesn't show up, you're really, really concerned because you, you never know and your mind wonders and you, you, uh are worried about what happened to him. Uh, and we couldn't find him for like an hour, hour and a half and then we found him and he was ok, but we're calling his parents, we're calling the police. We're, we're really checking everything and that's the kind of job we have, we are responsible for taking care of our players and making sure that we stand up for them, uh, and their mental health and their issues in life and, and, uh, we want our trainer, our players to be treated like we would want our sons to be treated and you can't just say that you do it. So when the chairman was standing up for his uh volunteers and, and the NCAA staff, that's all we're doing. We're standing up for a player that we feel like was treated poorly. Um And, and there was lack of judgment because it's not about the transfer rule. Um When you you start looking at the, the transfer rule. Uh We're not dissatisfied with it. We're dissatisfied with the, the committee reviewing the waiver because Tez's situation is different. He should be treated like a one time transfer. So all this talk about, you're saying two time transfers shouldn't, shouldn't be an issue when you griped about it. No, we want the waiver process to be handled properly and, and when you didn't play it to one school, you've only played it at, at Kent State when you transferred because they didn't have a season. Uh, and you transferred because of COVID. And at that time, our, our country was in a mess and we were making decisions to help people and, and we, we made a, a decision this time on process instead of helping a person in, in my opinion. Um, and, and then he's admitted on January 9th and they changed the rule on January 11th. So we feel like that should be grandfathered and there's other boxes that, that he checked that we feel like should have been that way. So, um, so we expressed our concerns publicly, uh, like the chairman did, uh, what we did is, is, uh, uh, we, we are so lucky to live in a, a country where we're free and we have freedom of speech and we can say what we think that's the way you all make a living. Um And it's, it's fair for us to stand up for our guy, um, and we can agree to disagree and that's what we've done in this situation. Uh, other than that, we haven't called for anybody to be hurt or anybody to be harassed or anybody to be anything else. But there is a difference in my life and some of the other people's lives that judge because I have to live mental health with these kids every day. I have to, I have to tell Tez Walker he can't play. I have to try to figure out what to do with him, uh, to, to, because so much of his identity is football between now and, and the end of the semester. Um And, and then try to help him with options moving forward. So, um, now I totally understand the, the comments totally understand the concerns on, on the chairman's part. Um, but we have the same concerns here and, and feel like it's fair for us to express it just to, just to follow up there real quick if I can. Uh, and I hear you on that when you said, you know, you're standing up, uh for your position in this. Do you, does this give you any regret when you hear the, you know, the word threats being used and, and, and things of that nature is that, do you have regret about this? No, because, uh, nothing I did started threats. I mean that, that's if, if they're having threats that must have come from somewhere else. Nobody I know is threatening anybody. Um, so all I'm doing is taking up for our player and that's my job. Anything else before we get off? And I'm, and I'm totally opposed to anybody who is out there threatening someone, period, regardless of whether they're volunteers of the NCAA on the NCAA committee. Uh, or at UN C, we, we've probably gotten some bad emails here. I get them all the time. I, I could call some of those threats. II, I get them every day. Uh, but I, I move forward and, and do what's best for our, our players, Andrew. So I just want to stay on that. Uh There, it wasn't a very thinly veiled, uh, allegation though that the comments that came from you and from Baba may have incited these threats because they kind of lumped it in together. So with that, is there any recourse on your part, either the privately or publicly? Uh, and, and how do you handle something like that when you just said you had nothing to do with it but they put out into the public, uh, uh bloodstream that they think that you did. That's, it's a great country where we can have an opinion. I mean, that, that's their opinion and I hate it that they feel that way. Uh I hate it, that somebody's having threats, but I still feel very strong that my job is to stand up for Taz Walker. Because his life has changed as well, uh, to, to put a bow on this. Uh, is this it for you guys? Are, are you, is this the last time? Maybe you comment on it, you move forward because the season continues, Tez is not gonna play and both sides have sort of said what you have to say. Yeah, I was already through and I wasn't gonna mention it today till you asked me. Um So I, but I figured you'd ask me. Uh So, um as far as I know, I, I know that the, the uh university and the, the board of trustees are still looking at the best options to help a young person on our campus. And that's what the chancellor does. That's what the ad does. We are all trying to help our young man uh make some sense of this and, and have a better life. So, um that's all this is about. Um and, and like I said, I've, I've been working on Minnesota. Uh This came from nowhere yesterday and um it, it is what it is. Thank you, ma uh in the statement they mentioned that, you know, in looking at some of these waivers, they have a, I guess a panel of mental health experts that they kind of consult things like that uh at any point in the process. Um And I know you've kind of talked about, you know, what communication may or may not have been there with the NCAA. But, uh, were you ever given any kind of, uh, maybe explanations as to, you know what the set up of that mental health panel is like, and the types of people they consult or anything like that? Jeremiah, I haven't but, uh, again, uh, Pat Sudi, our general manager and compliance, uh, and, and Bubba Cunningham did most of the process. I was not that involved with it and, and none of us could talk um on the day that they talked to Tess, they, they wouldn't let Bubba talk, they wouldn't let his lawyer talk. They only wanted to talk to Tess. So I don't really know that much about the process. Yeah. Hey, coach, it's great to see you and thank you for your time. Sorry to insist on it. But uh multiple people have come out supporting your claim and I've just finished reading an extensive article saying that you should play tests anyway. I'm not asking you if you have considered that, but how do all those comments make you feel about your claim and your position? The only thing that's important here, Luciano is what's best for Tez Walker. This is not about me, it's not about anything else other than his well-being. And so much of a student athlete's uh identity at this age is playing. And here's a guy who's a potential pro prospect. Here's a guy who was already on the senior bowl list. Here's a guy who had the opportunities to make a lot of money with nil and all that's gone away now. Um, so what we have to do is, is number one, we want to make sure everybody understand that, that we didn't like the process. Uh None of that, uh, trying to hurt somebody. Um And secondly, now we've got to do what we feel like is best for him. Uh There's a, a lot of people that are looking at the different options and possibilities for him. Uh I'm not in that group. Uh that, that group is the university and I, I love the fact that they've stood up for the young person because it's unlike any other student here. It's not, I mean, every student here we should do what's best for them and take up for them and that, that's who we are and what we do. Um So there's a lot of people looking at the, the possibilities right now. Uh and I don't know what those are. Uh as far as I know and I know he's not gonna play this weekend. Adam wrap us up for, with coach. Yeah, Mac wanted to just double back real quick. I was thinking about Monday. There's a lot going on Monday when, when we talked to you and you had mentioned that, that you and Lonnie had to give Tez the news that they had denied him again. I mean, ca can you take us maybe a little bit inside that conversation and you know, I'm not trying to get you in trouble again, but is it sort of bogus that you are the ones that have to tell him that they are the ones who denied him if that makes any sense? Like, can you just tell us, maybe give us some more insight there? Yeah, Adam, I think the, the most important thing is, is, is what's best for Tez Walker period 100%. And, uh, we wanted to tell him in person, we wanted to make sure he was ok. We wanted to make sure that that night he was ok and where he was gonna be and be around friends and people that he cared about because we, uh, we constantly are concerned as I said about that young man this morning. Uh, I am responsible for every one of these young men to their parents. And this morning we were talking to a parent when we weren't sure where the young guy was and we couldn't find him and, and that's a frightening thing and, and everybody loves their kids and when we take one here, we're responsible for them. So, um, I'm not gonna apologize for standing up and, and, and trying to do what's best for our young person and making sure that he understands that we have exhausted every possibility that we can to help him because if we haven't, then we're not doing our job and, and none of this was to, uh, embarrass anybody to, to get anybody threats. Uh, the only thing we've done is take up for our player and I'm very proud of that and if I had to do it over again, I'd do exactly the same thing. Uh, because I was shocked when he, he didn't get, uh, approved, his eligibility, didn't get shocked. And I felt bad because I had, uh, probably, uh, made him feel like, uh, the, the process was going to happen because I thought it would. Uh, and then I felt so bad, we had to tell him twice in, in, in a week, uh, that he, he wasn't gonna play and, and that's the other thing Andrew, we were talking about, you don't want to get him excited about another possibility and then be crushed again because that's a, that's a, a load emotionally. And as I said, there was a time last week we didn't know if he was gonna stay in school. We didn't know if he wanted to play football anymore and, and we had to deal with all that and, and that's the, uh, uh, that's the other part of this story that people don't understand and realize that's real too, that there's some hurt on the other side, but there's a lot of hurt on this side too and, and, uh, I hope the hurt cleans up on the other side. Uh, I'm responsible for helping it be cleaned up on this side.