B that's one thing I know, you don't know it, you don't want to know it. So tell me when everybody's ready, we're good, everybody, we got it, okay. Practice has been good camps been good. I like the team. I like the way they work. Uh I like the way the coaches are competing against each other, the offense, defense, special teams competing against each other, but they're getting along uh Coach Chizik and coach Longo are doing a tremendous job of trying to give the other side what they want. One of the problems in early camp is you don't have game plans. So if you're not careful, you just work on stuff against stuff and and then you've got to start saying I need with the second team defense, I need this for the offense to see, because we're gonna have to see this in the first three weeks before our open data or same with uh with the defense, Coach Chizik may want some specific plays that our quarterback runs, that we've got to do. The hardest thing for a head coach this time of the year is making decisions on camp. Um How long do you practice? How many days do you go in a row? Because you never go three days in a row except for um more than three days in a row. Except for camp. That's why people get more people hurt in camp than any other time. So how hard do you push them? When do you push them? You gotta push them enough to get them in shape in the heat, You gotta get him inside enough to let them cool down. You've got to hit enough to to learn to play the game because we've got such an inexperienced team. You don't want to get him hurt. We get antoine green hurt on on saturday. It was a hitch and he turned inside and he got hit just running and linebacker hits him and he gets hurt. So now he's out for 6 to 10 weeks. Hopefully on the six side of that, we're 20 days from game time. He'll be back by Notre dame. Uh so we've we've got to pick him up. We've told them you can't you can't help what happens to you. Your attitude is what you can do with what happens to you to get better and get back. He had his operation yesterday, he was in team meeting this morning, that's kind of attitude. He's got, you love the young guy, he's had some bad luck here. Uh so hopefully he'll he'll get some um some positive things to still happen throughout the season. Jeremy wrote a few things down. He thought you'd want to hear a scrimmage recap was really good. We had a lot of competition. We had about 100 plays in the heat uh in the turf. We pushed a lot of guys and what we've done is um and that's one reason we don't want you out here yet. We are the guy that plays the best is moving up and the other one's moving down so we've got a lot of unsettled uh questions right now about who's gonna play and we're trying to find the guys that play hard every day. Can't say I had a bad day then you lose the game, can you say my bad? We we know it's your bad, so play and play every day. So, but the scrimmage was good. That's the uh the only three guys right now that wouldn't be ready to play for fall would be Jill taylor uh Chris Connelly uh and antoine Green. Everybody else is still on schedule to to be able to be able to play in the opening ball game quarterback battles what it is. I mean they're still competing at a high level, they're still getting along. Um Connor Harold still makes plays, he had a couple of deep balls today. Um So we, we like the guys, the three that are competing right now for a starting spot and really the two are competing for a starting spot and we're just trying to get Connor to get better as we move forward. Same thing with running back competition. Both George Pet away and Omari and Hampton look really good on saturday, so we gotta figure out who can stay healthy in that group. We've got to figure out with those young guys adding uh dre green to it. Um He needs to step up now that antoine's out. Um So we've also got to adjust the offense to make sure that we're simple enough for those guys to be able to play and play free and and not get you beat because they don't know what to do and they run the wrong way or get some hits. So all those are decisions that we're trying to make right now, trying to figure out both lines of scrimmage. How many offensive lineman can we actually play with? You got a lot of defensive linemen, How do you roll those guys and not just have them rolling in and out and nobody gets to play. Who are your best pass rushers? I've got a statement for the, for the coaches today, um who are your best players and why in passing situations? Give me the four best pass rushers and I've got in my mind who they are. I want them to tell me who they think they are and then I want them to back it up with video. But today we have, we're working really hard on things. We haven't done well. We had a third down scrimmage today And and that's all we did situations for third down. We had um another game scrimmage where we just played it, you put it down and play it and you go about 4-6 plays and and because and also coaches, it hadn't called defenses for five years, so he needs to be doing that. Uh we're tweaking some things on offense, so uh coach logo needs to be doing the same thing. Um And then we had we're having one minute every day because we need to get better in in one minute and especially with young quarterbacks. So um I like the team I like where we are. We got a lot of things. We've got to fix defense only had one penalty on saturday. We had a full A. C. C. Crew offense had too many penalties, but one guy had two penalties and the other guy had three penalties. So we slid them down the depth chart and told them you you played hard but you didn't play good. We're not having penalties anymore. So we're not gonna put up with that many penalties per game. So we're working really really hard in leadership and toughness and accountability uh and playing the game. And and the problem, we've got within in a few areas, we've got to play the game and still stay healthy enough to play on Saturdays. But we've we've got to hit uh we can't do it. And and with antoine's hit it would have been the same and thud he was just running. Got hit standing up. So tackle didn't make any difference with him. Questions that we're hoping we make it on sunday before the first game and and tell you on monday at the press conference is what we're hoping but it still has not separated enough for us to make that decision and we want to work. You know, we want to make sure that that uh we're using the strengths of both quarterbacks to let them have a chance to win the battle. Um And then at some point we got home the offense down and just get it down to the simple things that that both do best together. But I'm really not worried about that position because like we said, they're both good and every day you come out here, you say, could he, could I start him? Yeah. Because I started him. Yeah. And everybody likes to pick a favorite. Um, we haven't done at, so what will be the factor? It sounds like a smart cancer and but who moves the ball And he scores and and we grade them every day. In fact, Phil did a really smart thing saturday. He had them grade themselves. So they graded themselves and then he graded them and they sat down individually and went over both of those. Well, why did you think you graded this? And why did you think you graded this and tell me the difference in the two? Um So it was really, it's really cool and a smart thing to do, but it'll be, who's going to protect the ball? Uh It's gonna be, who's gonna get the ball out of their hands fast because we're not gonna go through sacks like we did last year. Uh it's going to be um who can convert on 3rd and 4th down, who runs well enough to make plays and who's got the poison leadership to carry the team to the simplifying is probably the wrong term. We're looking at what we need to do to be able to play the best players and to do that. Maybe you take some concepts out that would, they're not ready for yet. And you've got two young quarterbacks and they have been out there in games and they both played under pressure and it was Walford but it's still people in the seats and people played and they played in the spring game. But you want, you want everybody to be able to think and and we've told them we're going back to a mentality. Um what can we do to to eliminate tackles for loss, What can we do to eliminate sacks and then we've got to be able to handle the penalties. So we're starting from a mindset every pass, how well can this be protected? And if we got a guy can't protect, then we're not, we're not gonna throw that pass or we're gonna change the protection. So that's what I mean. We're being more detailed in little bitty things that need to be fixed because we've had some of those problems for three years and we shouldn't have had them for three, for example, is that the thing that stands out the most is just a list of things that it's a list of things that, that I put together over three years but I thought last year were exceptionally bad. Red zone on both sides of the ball, Lower, red zone on both sides of the ball. 3rd downs, uh analytics wants you to go for third and short and fourth and short. Well if you're not making them, you can't do it. So I want to get, so we can make them and I want to have a better plan and I want to know exactly what we're doing on those downs, uh and we work on them every day. So I see it out here before. I have to hope it works in the game. Um And I want every group to do it. That's got a chance to be in the game. Um, turnovers. You, you and and studying all of this, you get more turnovers when you're ahead and the other team has to throw it or on long yardage situations on third one. So you gotta win first down to turnovers on 2nd 3rd because usually they're gonna use manageable plays on second, four, third and three. Uh but if you're behind, you're gonna be throwing it more. So your protection is harder. We know you're throwing it, we've got our best protectors are pass rushers in the game and you can force more turnovers. So we're just looking at every little detail and making sure that not only our coaches are aware of where we are. I took every loss last year. Um, um, and, and we have a little, um, what do we call them? Keys to victory? We have a little keys to victory. And they were so similar in the losses. You didn't run the ball well, you had too many sacks, you had too many penalties, you didn't win the turnover battle. I mean, this game is not complicated. People are complicated football simple and, and we've got to get the simple, um, football game to make more sense to the complicated people. You talk about Phil having the quarterback's grade themselves. I think that that was an idea that, that you like, and I don't know a concept you've ever run across before is that we've done it. I don't like grading kids and giving them the grade because sometimes your best player may not great is good, but he makes more plays. So you gotta be careful with those grades. Um, If I was gonna take Javonte Williams out because he had three mistakes and the other guy didn't have any mistakes but didn't make any yards. I'd say I'm stupid for grading. Uh, but I do think the concept of getting them to tell you what they see and getting them to understand, here's what I did well, and here's what I need to do better. Those are hard concepts. Self evaluation is one thing that football teaches kids And it's a hard thing for all of us. Nobody likes criticism, nobody likes to be told you didn't do that right. Uh, so we, we really work with them so they understand hear positive things I've got, here's concerns, you need to get fixed. It's gonna play Adam. We actually have our, our coaches give every player 3-5 things that their position that you need to be able to do before you can play. And then that's an easy upgradable scenario because you can say you did these three, but you know what, you didn't do this to, you got to get better at these two before we can play it. And we said today, you, you want to play pro ball, a pro scout comes out here and we don't tell him who you are and he's looking around and he can't find you, you're not gonna play, you better be a special player if you want to play if you want to get awards and if you want to play in the NFL and you gotta do it every day. Mac, you mentioned the position battles from the big picture perspective far enough along in the program building process. We have adequate talent competition pretty much every position group. Yes, we are. We're thin at receiver because we had five believe, I think they're graduated Tyler gets sick. Uh, and then antoine gets hurt so you have to be really, really careful because normally in camp, if the position that gets thin, you're still running them all and then more get hurt because you don't have as many. So we've got to, we've got to make sure we work there and maybe work more two tight ends since bryson can play both. Uh, and were thin at linebacker cause we only have five scholarship linebackers and only only to have really played in power, played 100 plays, uh, said played a whole lot. He played 900. Uh but then Rara and uh Sebastian cheeks, they need to come on and Sebastian is a true freshman and then you've got caldwell who's been here for eight practices. So, uh, we're not as far along and in a couple of those areas as we'd like to be. Uh, but we, we feel like we've got good enough players, what we've got to do is be smart and make sure that we coach them the right way. Yeah. You kind of alluded to this before, but you've spoken highly of the leadership so far. How was that manifested itself? I really like the leadership so far. We haven't played, but every day in the spring they practiced hard and that wasn't the case last year, it was the previous two years or really the second year was the best, the first year we were up and down some um and they've they've competed uh the eight practices we've had and and they, they they're not pouting, they're not griping, they're they're competing and and I really like that. And we've said, how lucky for josh downs to get to go against Tony grimes every day. How lucky for both those kids, they're playing against two great players. So if you compete with the best we've got every day, then you should not be anxious in the game. You've already competed against a really good or better player than you're gonna play against on saturday. So it should help you get better. Same thing with pass rush. We've asked our guys find the best player we've got to go against and you may lose, but you're, you're, you're learning to win. And, and that's something that's really helping us with the progress of the program. Getting more players. We've got more pass rushers, we've got more legs to stay fresh. So all that happens through, through recruiting through your four last years recruiting class was as good as, as we thought it was as we start to look at it, it's really good. They're, they're as good as any communications seem to be kind of a problem at times last year. What have you seen them get better in that area And the last couple of years we've had some just bust and we're not seeing bus now. You can tell who's supposed to be there. I'd get mad sometimes and say, could somebody tell me who was supposed to be there. Um, and, and now, you know, he may be a little slow, he may not be where he needed to be, but he's in the area. So um, with, with a concept uh Jean is a great teacher, he talks about inches. Um we we had a one minute drill with a last second field goal. Jabari ritzy got there and held his hand up. Mr block, Jean said that's inches from winning a championship. You gotta get your hand up a little different, put your hand on the ball, you headed up. So just little bitty things like that. He is teaching and doing such a great job of, and I see Jack McNeill the same way every minute detail and step. Uh so those two are are really doing a good job of helping us on both sides of the ball. And then you you take it without saying, but you get a special forces war hero from Air Force, he's gonna be disciplined. I mean that's and uh and they're afraid of him, so they love him but they don't want him to go off. Um but he's doing, they're both doing a great job of teaching and I think it's where it's rubbing off on some of our other coaches as well. We know a Burnett and um Jonathan kim are competing every kick and the one that makes the most kicks is kicking, we don't care cole Maynard and Ben Kiernan are punting every punt and we're demanding that it be four second hang time were demanding it be 40 plus yards and we're demanding it be on the numbers or into the bounty and we're putting the one out there to punt that does that more than not. So there's a tremendous amount of competition in those groups because that's a group that that maybe has 1 to 3 to five functions a game and they can't be two out of five, They got to be 100%. So they gotta be automatic. Uh and I think they're feeling that with a competitive pressure and practice and also security. Yeah. So good will really miss drew when he leaves. I'd never put a snapper on scholarship before he got here as a high school player. It always made him earn it. And when Larry had already offered him I said I don't know he's we don't even mention Drew and that's a good thing if you don't know who the snapper is. That's a good thing if he's if he's getting a lot of attention it ain't good brother. Um uh Returners. Yeah make sure I get him right jeremy because I don't have a list in front of me, josh is obviously the number one punt returner. Uh You've got Andre Green back there, you've got George Peta way back there. Um And I think those are the most docks back there. Some um josh is gonna do it and then we got to figure out which one is gonna be. So it be doc it would be George, it would be Andre green and josh and I'm thinking there's one more that's your five. And then um pretty much the same guys don't kick off. We don't have josh on kickoff, Probably should. Um But you don't get to return many Kickoffs anymore with a great kicker. One of the things you have to start doing is you look at the other team and if they're gonna kick it out, don't waste a lot of time during the week. You work on sky kicks and you work on the squibs. Um If it's a short kick and they don't cover very well, then you can start working on your returns but don't waste time because Jonathan kim is gonna kick the large majority. He's kicked every ball out of the end zone uh that we've had him kick off. So uh maybe when maybe rain, maybe we want a sky kick or something. But normally our guys covering aren't going to have a return against it. So it's a kickoff is different right now than it's ever been because of the rules. The other rule that that came up, we met with the officials for two hours after saturday's scrimmage and there's a new rule that's really gonna change the game and we didn't talk about it much because I didn't understand the way they were going to call it and it's no blocking below the waist. So basically if josh downs is in the slot and you've got a linebacker on his head, he can't cut anymore because it's out of the tackle box. So it changes your concepts with perimeter blocking. You have to do it with more tight ends, you have to recruit taller bigger receivers. And even your offensive lineman, even if you're in the box you you can't cut unless it's straight on. So if an outside linebacker is slamming inside, your offensive lineman has to be his hip or above. So there is no more cutting at all. Even for a running back on sprint out, if you've got George pet away blocking Dez Evans, he has to stay up and block him because it's out of the um tackle box, he can't cut him. So it's the biggest advantage I've ever seen for the defense. It's a huge advantage and and it will make dre and Charlton coach it differently because now they can go attack up here. They have no worry about being cut. Now what you may see is if if I block ross up high and they said this is legal, I won't touch you, ross if I block block, right ross up high and then the ball bounces outside and I'm josh downs and ross is getting away. I can slip down after I've had contact of high, I just can't cut. So that's gonna be a really hard call for an official to try to see it. And I really worry about that same thing with uh with the center. If he's on a three technique I can block Andrew up high and as he's going away from me, I can slide down well if the um referee looks back in and sees you cutting, it's a tough one. It's so we're that's one that everybody's going to have to deal with that we've never dealt with before. You guys are going to build chemistry with the quarterback is going to be an issue building up the quarterback's confidence knowing that a senior veteran leader on. Yeah, you'd rather have him than not but we're not gonna make excuses and injuries happened. Could have happened in the first quarter of the first game. Uh So you've got J. J. Jones, you've got drake green, you've got Gavin Blackwell, you've got Kobe Pacer, you've got uh doc chapman, my missing jeremy's rainbows, uh Justin Olsen. So you've got you've got six or eight. We we've got to make sure that we get them enough work to get them in shape and not get them so much running because they're thinner that they get dead legs I don't think so we've also got young quarterbacks. It's not like these guys have been throwing to a guy for for three years. They don't have their guy than josh josh had um he he overcame a 3rd and 18 with a seam down the middle where safety's didn't play it well on saturday and then he caught another seam in the middle of that round everybody for about a 30 yard touchdown. So he's and then we said come here yeah, we gotta get go get water. Mac. Do you think that blocking rules? I don't I understand it, it's like targeting. I understand why they put it in for safety with knees, especially with tight ends crossing the formation and cutting a guy they don't want to cut on the side. I got all that but I'm worried about josh downs and George Pet away now with their head and it's changed their ability to play um in the slot. I mean it's just changed everything and we didn't think they were going to call it like that until yesterday and it it really woke us up. So it's a it's a difference is there someone on offense and on defense who stood out to you and you're like wow, it's very surprising that you were surprised about after the first couple weeks of camp One for each. Yeah, I would say the two freshmen backs, they were explosive on saturday and I was surprised that they looked that good that early but both of them jumped out. Omarion made, he made a couple of runs, he bounced out real fast and but he and and it's not to compare them to these two yet but uh the flares and the speed plays that George Pet away can make the power plays that martin can make, I mean it's £220 runs four forward gets downhill. He's loaded. Uh so those two for sure. Andre Green would be the other one. Those three andre had a catch like this the other day, pre practice. I said, yeah, good. That's what we want. Um defensively uh young guys you'd have to think, noah Taylor has made plays and in fact, Dez is rushing the passer better days. Evans um Rucker came on Rutgers done a good job rushing the passer. Um seems like I'm missing one since I don't have my list in front of them. But those three for sure because we're working on pass rushers. Jabari Ritzy is so quick. He's playing power end and inside and he's just so quick. He's hard to block. Um Power Echols is a machine. I mean he just loves to play. He's a little undersized, but he plays all over the field. Every play. We've been impressed with Marcus Allen. Uh the young corner from Walton in Atlanta, he's older. His, his dad was a captain of the basketball team at West Point. His mom's a Columbia graduate and he looks like he's older. He's just out there playing and, and um will hardy, his, his dad's a high school coach and a very successful one. So both those guys have played older than they are when they first got here. Um Corey Gaynor has brought confidence and older and toughness to that offensive line. Um We think Spencer Rowland will be a good player. Uh, he's uh, he's having to adjust to a faster pass rush than he's used to. So he's had a couple of those where he says, mm yeah, they're faster. Uh, but he's, but he's getting better with what we do, Jeremy, Is there anybody missing? Yeah, I know you said you wanted to get your running backs. 2, 3. Is he in that three right now? Was he? Uh, charlie? It's, it's one reason we, we, we haven't said anything yet and we're still separating because the one thing you have to be careful with the freshman is he has a great practice and then he comes out and he's flat for the next two because he's not used to competing at that high level. So you don't want to anoint one and then him step back and and have two bad practices. So we're, we feel like we're 20 days out still. That's a long time until game time. So we feel like what we will do is we'll watch these guys through it at least another week and a half probably and and 10 days before game time. We'll probably start making decisions on who can play and who can't, so camps along and these guys have never been through a camp like this. So we want to see what they do, but he has definitely got the attention of everybody out there watching, you know, I did till saturday and with antoine getting hurt that hurts us because he's older and he's coaching and like I said, he was in the meeting this morning, so he'll be back, he's passionate about it. Um but you've just got a lot of inexperience out there. Most of those guys I talked about haven't played in games that mattered, you know, So you you've got josh and a whole bunch of young ones trying to learn and that's the thing about our team. It's uh people get mad when you say it's, it's young. You don't have to say young anymore. You you say and experienced and I think that's who we are. And then you look andre Green's out there working by himself and Omarion Hampton. Those two guys stayed out after practice and and they're working by themselves to try to get better. So that's just nobody out here with them. Just filled with them pills over there with them. Maybe he made Mac, you, you talked with us openly regularly where you said you did a bad coaching that's sort of something you said to us a lot, you know, just outside of the exes and Ohs and finished not finishing games and things like that. Like what sort of feelings since last season ended have led you to say that about yourself, that you didn't do a good job? What sits with you and what is that if you had a good enough players to beat Virginia and Miami and Wake Forest And you had the game at State one and didn't finish it. And your first and goal from the pit against the conference champion didn't finish it. To me, that's coaching. I mean that's as a younger coach. I wouldn't say that. I blame players probably, but I've been around long enough. We need to do a better job than that. And I've told our coaches that when you beat Virginia and you go to Georgia Tech and have three turnovers in the first quarter, you can't do that. You a really good well coached football team plays hard every week. That's what I pride myself on. We didn't, we played up and down now a lot of kids played hard, but your team didn't play hard and that's my responsibility. Um And and I've been more open with the coaches about that than you are when I've told them this is unacceptable and we're not gonna do it anymore. And that's why I'm out here every minute pressing everybody to wake up and and get back to where we were. The second year. Second year's team was really good. We about, it's raining on that side. But the second, the first team was good and played up and down a little bit. The second year we had it where we played good, we didn't win a tight when it at florida state. We didn't win a tight win at Virginia. But we were in both of those games. They're both hard places to play on the road. Uh and then we lose to Notre dame and and we lose to A and M. Um but those were great teams too. They were both top five teams. So that team got it and they had a chance to win every week. And now here we are, uh last year I thought they wanted to be that team and and didn't put all the work in and that's why this team is working. And that's why we're saying if you didn't practice well, you're out, you go down period, second team. No excuses. The guy in the sky don't lie. Here's what we've got your moving down. I mean, is that a tough emotional process at all? I mean, I'm not trying to get into it, but you're a hall of Fame because that's a difficult thing to be like, I didn't do a good job. I think it's a lot easier because I've I've done a good job before. And when I, and and really this is a results business period and if you win six games, you haven't done a good job. And that, that's just, that's not, that's not acceptable to me. I hold myself more accountable than that. People can say, well fans got mad at you. I said, me too. I mean, you know, I didn't like, I didn't like it. I didn't have fun. Wasn't near as much fun when you, you don't know who which team is gonna show up And that's why we're demanding they practice hard every day and they did it 15 days in the spring and they've done it the eight or nine, was this nine? Is this a this is not? Yeah. So so they they've done it every day and we just gotta keep them, keep them doing it. Is there a particular reason that you practice the media today? Yeah, Yeah. I really think we're not far enough along for you to come out here and it puts pressure on you to say, well he's the starting left guard. He's not and there he took over running back. He didn't because we're still making all those decisions. So, um, I feel like we treat you all better than anybody in the country. Uh and you've already been out here twice. Most people don't even let you come. Uh but since we offered you a third one and we held it back out and I got that I got and then start trying to figure out why why they do this. There's gotta be something wrong. It's really not. I want to get more settled And I'm looking for a day where you all can get a fair look at what we're going to look like on opening day instead of being all over the place because we are all over the place. We have not made enough decisions for you to come out here and and and get, um, a proper analogy of who our team is yet, because we don't even know, but we're 20 days out. So I'm looking for a better day for that for y'all. What else? We're good. Thank you. See you, it was really jeremy's fault. He's the one that said, don't let him come.