Sort of our goal scoring wise, you know, the one drive where we threw the pick, uh definitely was a drive we could have got points on and that would have helped quite a bit in that game, you know, defensively, uh I thought we did a really good job against their run game, held their tailbacks to less than three yards of carry. Deline, I thought, did a tremendous job penetrating, disrupting playing the backside cup blocks that they run with their stretch scheme setting edges. Um Caden Fordham, I thought him and Peyton were very active at linebacker. I thought CJ Clark played his best game of the year to date and we were good on third down, had two really critical interceptions, both uh exceptional plays, you know, uh the, the tip back from Bishop um Fitzgerald and then the effort diving interception on that play by Sean Brown was a tremendous play and then Aidan White's play uh down in the red zone, you know, they caught us in a, a 3d zone blitz and ran four verticals, a great play call by them and, uh Robert Kennedy does a great job rerouting the second receiver and Aidan is able to overlap and intercept the ball. That was a huge play in the game, uh, and big plays, you know, and then the fourth down stop, um another big play for us. So really three turnovers there that helped our, our team, I thought our eye discipline improved quite a bit as an area that we focused on a lot after the Notre Dame game and Sean Brown uh played his best game. I thought he was really good in this football game. There was one sudden change opportunity where, uh we turned the ball over offensively and our defense three out of them so responded, well, you know, negatives, we missed too many tackles, uh gave up too many explosives because of that and so got to be better uh in that area, obviously getting ready for an explosive team. I thought their quarterback, uh did some really good things on the run, you know, and, uh made some plays with his legs. Uh their two longest runs were him on QB draws and did some good things scrambling around the receivers, uh for Virginia, uh along with him, scrambling created some plays and we got to be better there, you know, against a running quarterback to be able to stay in coverage in the right areas. So our special teams, uh again were a difference, you know, our punter Kayden noon caster punted a 50 yard net. He flipped the field multiple times in that game, uh which was huge. Uh I thought Julian, obviously, Julian Gray, our returner on that last kickoff return was exceptional. Outrunning three unblocked guys to the field to get us out to the 50 then to see Braden, uh make the game winner. Uh, not that I didn't expect him to make it, but sometimes when you have, you know, a situation like that where the ball is blocked, even though it was an illegal play, you know, mentally for him to be strong enough just to come right back and drill that kick. That was awesome to see. So, you know, I'm really proud of what those guys put on tape. Now, we get to come home and uh be in Raleigh for a while excited about that and uh chance to play a really good team in Louisville. Um I know it came out on social media today, but it's a blackout and I have our, our black jerseys on and, and our fans in a night game on Friday night. Uh hopefully we'll have a game without rain and, uh really need the crowd behind us in this one. going up against the top offense in the AC C, they lead the AC C in scoring offense, rushing offense, passing offense, so great challenge and, and, you know, 12th man is real and when our crowd is behind us, it's helpful. It's, it's a dominant thing. There's a reason that, you know, we had such a streak going at one time. And our night games, particularly our Friday night games have been, uh, special evenings and so looking forward to having a, a wild rowdy crowd that is, uh, doing the right things for our football team and making life hard on the opponent. That crowd noise is huge, so excited, you know, to get back in Carter Family Stadium and also to have coach Bill Cower, you know, having his name put up on the ring of honor on our stadium. Uh great opportunity for us to recognize a great wolf pack. That's obviously a hall of fame coach and super bowl champion coach and been a tremendous mentor to me. So very proud uh to get to be a part of that experience and get to visit with coach again and, and have him present with his family and loved ones uh for this game. You know, I think it's, it's awesome that uh that boo and the administration um is honoring him in such a way because, uh, ever since I've been here, uh he's just been such an incredible guy to, to me, um for no reason other than he loves NC State. And so I'm just really happy that we're getting the chance to, to have them here and put his name up there on that. Definitely something that means a lot to our program questions Dave with, uh with Dylan mcmahon and, and Devin Boykin being off the dep chart this week, we can assume they're not playing, what is their status at this point? It's day to day, you know, they're both getting better. Um, Devin's actually doing a lot better than expected and so there's a long shot but there's a chance he'll play. Um, you know, I have to put those out when I get the information I get. So things do change, but Dylan's doing a lot better. Uh, I just saw him upstairs watching films, so it's not a long term thing. It's just, you know, how fast their bodies will allow them to get back and they're both doing well. Um, not as well as we would hope them to be, but a lot better than they could be. Thank you JC. Who, who, uh, who have you picked to do a cartwheel on a scout team? Could Cayman Smith or Alan Van pull that off and have you ever seen that before? No, I haven't even thought about it. To be honest, Daniel. Hey, Coach, I just wanted to get your thoughts on the, um, current wide receiver rotation and how you could possibly optimize it moving forward in what way? I don't know, uh, just getting, you know, more touches for the ones that have proved so far to have the ones that have gotten more touches, basically. Yeah. Um, you know, I think with coach and I, as this thing goes, I think I've had this, um, statement a million times, you know, it's evolving. And so KC obviously has been the most consistent playmaker. Uh I do know there's an emphasis in, in trying to spread the ball around more, but at the end of the day, Brennan's gonna throw it to the guys that are open and they gotta make catches and do things with it. I think, you know, Keyon Lasa and Julie and Gray are two guys that uh make plays when they get the ball and finding ways to do that. Uh I think he saw uh two games ago, Julian and the slot some had an explosive play down the sea on one of the third downs. Um So as this offense grows and these guys learn more and more, you'll see that. But again, it's in progress, I think is the best way to say it. And you got some guys that are trying to get in different spots on the field with coach and I system and I think there's just a chemistry that's growing and growing as this thing goes. Thank you, Karen. Yeah, day of uh defense has been a multiyear strength for your group, something you could really, you know, use with complementary football. And yet this is a time when offenses seem to have every advantage in a lot of ways with the rules and what people want to see. I'm kind of curious how difficult is it for defenses to do, like what your group is doing right now and has done the last year or two where they're, you know, hanging in there and playing well and con contributing against strong offenses in this day and age. No, I, I agree with what you're saying. It is hard and, uh, you know, coach Gibson and that side of the ball, that staff has done a great job. The kids we've recruited play really hard and they're, they're completely invested and bought in, there's an edge to them. There's an attitude to them. Uh, they like challenges too. You know, I think they're really excited to play this Louisville offense because of what they've done. Um, they've got a good scheme, they've got good players, they play fast and so, you know, games like this as a defense, it's a challenge and it's also exciting, you know, to go out there with that opportunity to do something other teams haven't done well. But, yeah, in college football you can't touch people much anymore and get away with it. And, uh, you know, the, the past interference part of the game is even in the NFL level, it's very hard, you know, with the way things are being called and the RPO game is what it is. But I think, uh, our kids have embraced what they are, you know, they're aggressive. Um They're not gonna let the offense dictate to them, they're gonna dictate, they're gonna get on the field and be, you know, the aggressor. And, uh, I like that, you know, and I think we're doing the best that we can, you know, to make sure that as a defense, we're not allowing someone else to tell us. You know, this is how you're gonna play. We're gonna play aggressive and our guys have to play within the rules, obviously, but you learn how to do that, you know, over time, you learn what the refs will allow you to do and not allow you to do. And most of the time you can play that way, you know, sometimes the refs will get a little bit on, you know, the flag happy side of things. But most of the time, you know, as long as you're doing what they tell you you can do, you can play with that aggressive attitude and do the right things. Ethan. Hey coach, uh, Anthony Belton has been grading out really well over the past couple weeks and it looks like he's taken another step forward, especially in pass protection. Just what have you seen out of him so far through four games? Yeah, I thought he got, uh, last week, I thought was his best game. You know, I thought he finished blocks, uh, the way I would hope that he could with his ability. Uh, he's very gifted. He tries really hard to improve each week. Uh, does a really good job studying film, understands the opponent and have a challenge this week. Bo tackles will to the field and think Louisville's defensive end number nine is a really good football player. Um, but Anthony is, has really helped our football team. He's gotten better and to his credit when he hasn't succeeded, he takes it to heart. He looks at it, he understands where he can improve and he goes to work at it. Noah. Coach, it seems like Red Hitler's had a big, you know, impact on your defensive line through the first four games. What have you just seen from him playing well? Yeah, I mean, Red's what we were hoping he'd be, he's a really good pass rusher, you know, when we took him, he, he's a little different size wise. Uh, it's kind of a hybrid guy but man is, he got a good get off, he can bend, he's got super long arms so his ability to pass, rush in our dime package and to impact the game that way. I mean, he's probably playing 10 to 15 snaps a game but he's 3.5 sacks, two forced fumbles already in the season. And he's a tough kid. He doesn't say a whole lot. He just shows up and works really hard and he's got a knack for it. So I'm glad he's here. You know, that was what we needed when we lost. Daniel Joseph a few years ago. I felt like I was an area of our defense that could improve really him and Levi that year we had two pretty good pass rushers, Levi Jones and so getting red in this last recruiting class was what we were hoping he would be. And, and so far so good Jaden. Hey, Dave on Friday, you talked about a desire to kind of pare down the playbook a little bit, you know, and improve in, in, uh, uh, some more specific areas. What does that process of, you know, slimming that playbook? What does that kind of look like for y'all? You know, I think as we looked at it, you know, you guys ask me questions 10 minutes after I walk out of the locker room, like I'm supposed to have the game memorized at every position and sometimes you're not right. You know, in those settings. Um, you know, to me watching the film, our mistakes aren't in the fact that we have to narrow it down. We have to be better fundamentally. And so it's going back to your fundamentals, uh, you know, as an offensive lineman getting your first step and your second step in the ground, playing with independent feet, you know, your hand placement, your eyes, you know, where we're pointing and protections, just little basic things, you know, 11 play guy does it right. The next play doesn't, he gets exposed. It's fundamental focus. Uh, and, and that's really where the emphasis is. It, it's not necessarily paring it down as much as it is honing our technique and our fundamentals. And so that's the biggest area. I think, you know, some of our position groups, I thought our receivers improved in those areas, you know, um, as blockers, whether it's running backs or tight ends or alignment, I think we can be better. I know we can be better in those areas. And so, you know, it doesn't matter what the play is, you call it. If you're not using good fundamentals and technique as blockers, it's not gonna be a successful play. So that's been the area emphasis and that's kind of where we're putting all of our eggs right now. Rob this Dave, you mentioned Bill Cower. Um you know, obviously the lineage of NC State, you're actually closing in on the win record yourself. What does it mean to you? The lineage of NC State athletics is? How important is it to you to contribute to that lineage? Just speak to those things if you don't mind, sir. You know, I think as a, a human being really, you know, we talk about the dash in our program, you know, that your birthday, uh the dash and then whatever that date is, you expire, you know, and that dash is your legacy. That's what you stood for, that's what you meant. Uh It's what you leave behind and, and obviously, uh coach Cower has left a tremendous legacy in coaching, you know, and as a player here as a two sport athlete, um as a mentor in the coaching profession, as, as now an announcer that does a tremendous job, uh, so respected and looked up to in the profession and, and, uh, amongst peers and people that don't know him, you know, just seeing what he's done and what he meant for the Steelers Organization. You know, as far as me, you know, I, I guess that's not my job, um, to do that, my job is to do the best that I can and, and when I don't do exactly what I want, you know, when I fail is to learn from my failures and just keep grinding and, and pushing. And I feel like I've done that here. We've evolved, we've improved, we've been consistent. Uh We've graduated a lot of players. We've made an impact on our, our community. We played tough, hard nosed football, we don't quit in games and, and those are things I'm proud of. Uh There's other things that are unaccomplished here yet and those are the things I want to continue to strive for, you know, what my legacy will be here, time will tell. But, you know, I think one thing I am proud of is the, the culture, we've created the consistency that we have, you know, what we stand for, you know, the reputation that we have in the profession and in the state, the way that we treat our players. Those are the things that are meaningful to me. Um and that's really all I can control, you know, how people look at me from the outside. I don't really know, but I'm gonna do the best I can to represent the school that I love and, and do everything I can to help it achieve, you know, to the highest level that I can JB. Hey, Dave, appreciate you taking out the time. As usual. I wanted to go back to the point that you made about um how you want your defense to kind of con control the pace of these games and be aggressive. Um I, I'm curious to know what you've seen on film so far from, from Louisville. They scored 56 points uh twice this year already and their offense is, is rolling. What's it gonna take for your defense to, to control that narrative like you said this Friday night? Yeah, it's, it's a tall order, you know, uh anchor tail back. I mean, obviously he took on a return back for a touchdown on his last year. He's a dynamic player uh as a runner, as a returner, as a ball catcher, uh quarterback was tremendous down the field last week. You know, coach prom has got a good scheme. He's got good talent, the receiving core. There's multiple guys that they get the ball to. Obviously, number one is, is having a, a special year so far for them. Um And we've played against several of these guys, so we know you know, the talent that's Sarah, uh it wasn't an empty cupboard by any means, there's good skill on that football team. Their center and two guards are tough. But I think, you know, the accuracy that the quarterback threw the ball downfield with is the biggest thing. Like they're an explosive play offense. They are and they have explosive players and they'll take shots, you know, and so you've got to do a good job of staying on top and, and defending deep balls and then you have to pressure the quarterback and, and not just with blitzes, you know, you have to do different things to make it hard for him after the snap and, and not just let him pre snap know everything that you're in. And so it's gonna be that kind of game. It's a really good offense um with good players and a good coach and, you know, so that's the challenge you love, you know, as coach and players, we gotta go up against that and see if we can do our part to, to make it hard on him. You know, see if he can handle pressure, if he can handle disguise, if he can handle post snap movement. And then we got to win one on one. There's gonna be a bunch of them, whether it's pass rush or it's one on one in coverage, you know, we got to make plays and at the end of the day, the team that makes the most plays is gonna have the best day. And so that's the challenge you have and, and that's just the defensive side of the ball we're talking about. But, yeah, I think, you know, seen Coach Bram for a while, obviously didn't coach against him when he was at Purdue but have watched his teams over the years and he's a really good offensive coach, Noah, kind of touched on it but does the style of play they play on offense, you know, going downfield a lot? Does that put more pressure on, on a secondary of a defense to, to kind of play a little bit tighter knowing that, you know, you're gonna be one on one and all kind of on an island there. Well, I mean, that depends on the defensive call, you know, as a corner or a nickel or a safety. If we're man to man, then, yeah, they're on islands. Sometimes they'll have help over the top. Sometimes they won't. Those are the kind of kids we recruit though, you know, they want that and, you know, I think good D BS look forward to the opportunity to be on an island. That's the challenge they want. Um, and, you know, for us, we're not gonna put him on it all day long, you know, we're gonna mix it and change it up enough where it's not a here. They are one on one for 65 plays or 80 plays. We're gonna make them earn it. And sometimes you roll the corners up and play, help with your safety. Sometimes you buzz a backer out underneath and bail a corner like there's different techniques that you can do to take some of the stress off of those guys. So it's not every down one on one football, you know, and that's what you have to do, you know, uh in my opinion, and that's why I switched from the 425 to the 335. I felt like this defense allows you to do that in the secondary more and still stop the run, you know, to rotate coverage to disguise coverage to bring pressures. Uh And when you're playing a team that has a dynamic wide out to be able to give help when needed, um, so, so far it's been great for us, you know, and I think the biggest thing is just the execution within what's going on this week. It's no different than any other offense you play, you know, you gotta know what their strengths are and we're gonna know theirs well by the end of the week and we got to go out and execute JC. Conversely, when you look at how much Louisville's defense has changed, they blitzed everything it seemed like last year and had 50 sacks. Do you see this more of a game where you can challenge the offensive line to be more physical? Yeah, they have changed a lot, you know, you're right. They were very aggressive last year. Ton of man coverage, ton of pressure, uh and were very disruptive, created lots of turnovers last year in their defense. They're playing really sound right now, you know, um not gonna say they're basic, they're not, you know, they do different things and change coverages and they do have some pressures. Um, but their kids are playing good technique. I think both their corners are good players. I mean, they, they feel confident about them out there. You can see that and what they're asking them to do. And so, you know, we ask our offensive line to answer your question to be physical every week and that's a staple of our program. I mean, you know, we, we don't say, hey guys this week, take it easy on them. Let's not have any pancakes, you know, like it's not how we coach. Um, some weeks you do better in other weeks, you know, and I think for our guys it's about fundamentals, said it already, I'll say it again. It doesn't matter if they blit 60 times or five times, it's gonna be about our fundamentals and our hat placement and our pad level, our hands, our feet and, you know, the demeanor that we want to play with and so that will never change and we just need to do a better job of getting the results. Ethan coach. How would you assess the play? Of your tight end so far this season? And what are you looking for them to improve in both on the passing game and the running run blocking as well? Yeah. Uh, Trent Pennis, you know, thankfully he's healthy now and he's playing more and, uh, trying to get him more involved in what we're doing. His play count has gone up each week of the season and, and so, you know, trying to find ways to involve him and what we're doing. You know, Chris Tut was playing quite a bit early on and had a setback health wise and now he's back with us in practice. So, you know, it hasn't been a, a very productive position yet in the past game. Um, Trent missed almost all the training camp and then Chris played two games and then was hurt and now trenched back. So, you know, it's kind of early to really give you a true assessment, I think right now it's been inconsistent because of injury more than anything. We've used Jay Peak as a tight end quite a bit as a blocker and, and he's done a great job, you know, and he's gone and he's been very physical at the point of attack. And so, you know, Robert's just looking for creative ways, you know, to continue to use that position right now. Thank you, Rob. Yeah, you have an opportunity, Dave this week to be four and 12 and oh, in the AC C kind of weird way to get there but you, you have a chance to get there. And what type of resolve character characteristics have you seen in tangibles from your kids? I guess the first quarter of the season, uh, so far other fun group to coach, you know, they are, they come to practice with great attitudes. They work hard, they're intentional about improving and I'm seeing that, you know, and I think that's the one thing that excites me about this team. You know, I think we played a really good Notre Dame team in the second week and didn't play the way that we were capable of learned a lot in that game. And, uh, we're sitting here three and one and I'm excited about it, you know, I, I, I'd love for this team to get a little bit healthier. That's one thing and the good news is they're not season ending things other than jokes, you know, but we need to get some more of these dudes back out there. But, uh, the attitude and the effort, um, and the individual improvements within the roster have been noticeable and those things excite me, you know, uh, quite a bit and I think that's what you want is you want to get better each week individually so that you can get better collectively. And, uh, I think our special teams has been very, very good. Um, you know, we lost the Garza winner at at kicker as you guys know, and, and really, uh, a second year punter, uh, first year holder and some things have really transpired. They're both our returners, you know, are, are doing some great things. And so there's been some, um, those were big question marks going into the year, you know, and so those are some things that have jumped out as a, as a positive. So that's kind of where we're at, We're gonna wrap this up, Ethan. You wanna take the last one? Yeah, coach I just wanted to going off of that. I wanted to ask about the look you guys threw at U VA where you had both, um Jalen and Julian back at punt returner. What, what did you see there to, um, what did, um coach Gobel see to kind of take advantage of something? Was it U VA specific or just what went into that? No, we've practiced two returners all year, just hadn't used it yet and the weather was windy and rainy and felt like it was a smart thing to do to make sure the ball wasn't hitting the ground rolling all over the place back there. So it's more about the field, uh and the wind and rain, weather conditions than it was anything, but we trust both those guys as pump returners and obviously it allows us to have an extra hat back there too. So, you know, if they kick it to one or the other, the other guy can get the party started on the return and in case there's someone that gets beat, you know, coming down the field, you have an extra guy back there to be his kind of his personal protector. Awesome, thanks. Thank you guys. All right, thanks coach. Thanks, everybody. Remember we'll have availability with the players tomorrow. 11:45 a.m.