She? Good. Yeah. Hey, how you doing? Hm. Uh thank you. Appreciate that. How y'all doing? Great pack 2424 players. Uh, oddly enough, and, uh a great day, really exciting day for our program. And, uh, before I get into signing day, I'd like to thank our staff. Um, my recruiting staff, we made some major changes a year ago, uh and revamped that office. Uh and it felt like having more of a promo, um could benefit us from what we went through the year prior and I think the results are obvious. And Andy Vaughan uh has done a great job organizing that office, so very appreciative to him and Matt Wilson, uh who's on our personnel side with his staff, Quin and Betty and then on the recruiting side, uh Javis and JJ uh Nicole and then, uh on the scouting side, Tony Shields. So this office has gone from 11 years ago, one person uh to now, you know, a very, very talented room. Uh and then our graphics team, you know what they do now visually with, uh Moe leading the charge and, and Hayley and Nick. Uh There's a lot of creativity, but everybody, it's all hands on deck, you know, when you recruit and so very grateful to all of our support staff and full time staff that help us with recruiting. And then my coaching staff, you know, what they do, recruiting is still about relationships and uh not just with the, the players that you recruit, but with the people that are in their circle, uh that matter in their decision process. So there's a lot of people that they get to know, uh you guys that have been in the Murphy Center, know there's a lot of people in there and you know, they get to meet obviously with the staff with me with coach Thunder and his staff with Natalie and Nutrition with our staff with Coach TVA, then with Ruffin with myself and uh we've got an incredible group of people and I always tell that, you know, these young people are trying to find the right fit uh that can put them in an environment that allows them to grow into the best version of themselves. And 24 young people did that today and that's who we're gonna focus on. Um when the second semester starts and all of our portal guys are here. We'll have another one of these and allow you guys to interview them. But today is about the, the young men that signed with us and, and so that's who we'll focus on is those 24 people. And uh excited about the group, you know, when you go through it, um by position and by state, you know, we've, we've really spread our arms in this one. There's eight in State five from Georgia, two from South Carolina, two from Florida player of the year from West Virginia. Uh one from Virginia, one from Tennessee, one from Alabama, one from Delaware, one from Ontario, Canada and, and one from Ohio and, and so found a lot of places to go in this class. You know, I feel like it's a balanced class where we really um identified needs and met needs and, and got very, very explosive um in some spots, you know, where we needed some help, particularly, you can see it at receiver. You know, one of the things that jumps out to me about this group, there's a lot of guys that are winners, uh 16 Allstate players and uh eight players of the year eight captains, six state champions, three regional champions, four all Americans, one conference champion, another one that was a player a year in basketball and Elijah Groves, six of them were in the Shrine Bowl too in the Under Armour game, two in the all-american game and one in the US Army game. And so, you know, a decorated group as well. And uh 22 um high school signees, two junior college signees and 18 of them are enrolling early uh to hit the ground running here in January with us, which would be great to have them as a part of what we're doing along with the transfers that are coming in. We'll have quite a few new guys to work with, um, when we start the second semester. So, you know, it's an important day. It's, uh, as you guys know, the last three years, recruiting has changed a lot, probably more so than it has in the last 30. And it still comes down to making a choice about where you can go develop, uh as a player, as a person, as a student athlete, um where you feel like your best interests are there and, and you can compete and succeed and grow and uh take great pride, you know, in continuing to build this program, excited about the finish of this season and the momentum um that we're gonna have coming out of the season into recruiting and into our off season program which starts in January. So with that, I'll open it up for any questions. Sometimes it gets lost on Sunday day, but it's a two or three year grind on some of these players that you're bringing in. Sometimes you get them sometimes you don't. But what is that like to, to build a relationship for 23 years with a single player? Yeah, I think, um I said that to Peyton, you know, the other day when we're been here a long time, I was like, but you've really been in my life for eight years, started recruiting him when he was a sophomore in high school. And, and so that'll be the same, you know, some of these guys, you know, we've been recruiting Jonathan Taylor, for example, for a long time and, um, these relationships go deep. You know, you get to know everybody in their family and, and you talk about a lot of things away from football. Um, yeah, it takes a lot of time. It does and it becomes very personal, you know, and today is the day where we really get to say, all right, they're coming, you know, and that's, that's a key thing because up until this day, obviously things can change on either side. And so it's final and, um, I'm excited, you know, I'm excited to help these guys, I know what their goals are. I know what their dreams are and, and to be a part of that growth process and excited to see what they can do on our field. Obviously, you've seen what we can do with freshmen. And so some of these guys are coming here with that in mind and, uh, they want to contribute early and get to work well, yeah, I mean, when I was before I got to here, you know, recruiting really was just on the assistant coaches. I mean, every school I'd worked at prior to being a head coach, I was the position coach slash recruiting coordinator for that program. I, I was that way at Kansas, uh, Montana, uh, Wisconsin. And, and so that was part of my, you know, side gig, I guess I was coaching a position, but I was the recruiting coordinator and so I oversaw all that our mailings and, you know, our calling schedule and, and everything. Um, and as time has changed, you, coaches don't do that anymore. We hit the ground running, we're the boots on the ground. We go evaluate people in, in person. We build relationships on the phone and on facetime. But, you know, the rest of it is identify the players, uh, in the personnel office, which is just like the NFL. Uh, and then, and once we've identified them and offered them, the recruiting office, puts that plan together on how we're gonna get these guys on campus. And if they've come, what have they seen? Hey, this guy's already been to the library, let's not take him there. Let's, he wants to be in the weight room or, you know, trying to figure it all out. This guy is really interested in entrepreneurship or this guy's interested in ag, you know, and so each time they come, we're trying to get all those important points put in front of them and, uh, it's not a cookie cutter thing. I mean, it's individualized for each kid, uh, and our families. And so you, you really want to stress the things that matter most, uh, to them not to us because each person has a different path to the school they're going to and, you know, we'd be foolish not to try to do that. So having that professional side that is can really dig in and, and study their social media even to find out things about them. Hey, this guy's favorite food is this, you know, we try to dig up everything we can on that stuff so that we know as much as possible going into these opportunities. I always tell our staff this, like every time someone steps on campus it could be the last time they come. Uh If we don't do our jobs, they may not ever come back here, you know, and so we have to treat it that way that uh each visit is a critical visit, you know, and we take a lot of pride in that, you know, and we don't always hit the mark, but we certainly try. Yeah. Yeah, super excited about that, you know, it felt like, uh with the change in offense. Obviously, you saw what we did this year with KC. But, you know, Robert wants to be able to have targets all over the field. And um I'm used to having some taller guys on the outside, you know, if you look at who we've had over the years, you know, going back to when I first got here, but uh that lineage of outside and inside. Um so we needed to get better there and, and recruiting allowed that, you know, Terrell Anderson, really skilled guy. He is also a great returner, um, outside receiver, tough guy blocks, you know, I went to one of his games and he was as impressive a blocker as he was a playmaker. I love that about him. Um, we had Jamar Boston, you know, in camp and he was phenomenal in camp, both sides of the football, by the way, he was really good on defense too. And I like that about him, uh, and, and a championship player made clutch plays in the playoffs for them, uh, walk off plays to win games. And so we like the versatility. He brings inside and outside. Christian Zachary, big body, uh, long guy coaches, son, hard working kid that has just, uh a lot of upside, you know, and we'll definitely have to develop him, but he's got that big frame, uh, similar to Dri Collins and build, you know, when you look at him. And so that's exciting. Obviously, Mr football, Jonathan Taylor, he can do a lot, you know, he can play running back and play receiver, uh, can return kicks and punts. And so he brings kind of that Casey Naheem element back into the offense there where it's not all on one guy that way in the slot. Um And then, you know, Keenan Jackson, uh I told our staff this in the summer when we, when he left our campus. We had him here for a seven on seven tournament. I said that is a player. We have to find a way to get. Like he's one of the best players and kids that I've been around his demeanor, uh, his competitive spirit, how, how, uh, how he took each rep out there. I'm like, we gotta find a way and thankfully, we just stayed in touch with them throughout the season and he played in our stadium. I think that had an impact on him. I went in the championship here. He saw how we finished the season and, you know, really, really happy to have him, you know, and I think that group, it's impressive, you see what they do and there's differences in them and they're going to have a chance to help us early. So talented group of guys. Yeah, he sent us his stuff early this morning. So we were just waiting, you know, some of these guys have big school things that they do and, and that's fine. You know, we just need to have the fax in or the screenshot or whatever it is now early enough where we're not wondering what's going on. And so they, you know, they woke up, sent it to us and then told us it'd be around one before it went, you know, public and another state champion. I was at his championship game, really talented quarterback, you know, tall can throw, uh, escape, you know, moves his feet really? Well, he's a leader. He's got kind of a charisma, uh charismatic attitude, you know, where guys gravitate to him and competitive, very competitive and so excited about CJ on that side of the football is our quarterback every now and then you get certain recruits where you could probably just out, they're, they're one of us, they're, they're part of who we are. Rody Barnhart to fit that to A T what was it like to kind of go through and you check, you talked about checking boxes, you checked all the boxes and then, you know, when you knew you were gonna get them. What was that like? Yeah, a tough kid. Uh another champion, you know, three time champion there at PD. Um but yeah, gritty, fast physical, uh plays the game, you know, he's a little off center kind of Taner English, you know, and I like that about him. He'll be a really good special teams player for us as well. He's a good kick returner, but just a kickoff cover guy, pump block guy, you know, he's, he's an aggressive player. So he fits the demeanor of our guys and that dog mentality we talk about on defense. He definitely fits in there. How is your approach changed or any difficulties when it comes to recruiting with nil and Transport being so important in college football? Yeah, everything's changed everything, you know, I mean, we never even knew what that meant three years ago, you know, so, and we're still learning the best ways to do it. And for me, it's more about raising money and awareness in that space. The portals in con in combination with nil is what's made hard because of the illegal stuff that goes on with, you know, third party agents trying to recruit players off of rosters to go to other schools with, who knows if they're real offers or not, you know, just throwing stuff at these guys and it's not in writing. So there's no guarantees and these guys are getting cuts off of players to leave rosters. That's what's really bad about what's going on, you know, the nil, um, there's great things about it, there's bad things about it, you know, but we're working really hard here, uh to make it a, um, a strength of our program, you know, we've got great support and, um, you know, since the final game where I talked about it, I guess it's really brought some awareness to our fan base of the importance of it, you know, and I would just say again, it really doesn't matter if you like it or don't like it if we like winning, which we do. Uh, to me, it's a way to have an advantage over other teams that are just trying to be old school and say it's not good. It doesn't matter, it's, it's here, it's here to stay and it is good for these young men and their families to, to have some resources that they couldn't have. And, you know, just be honest, some of these guys on the field are earning the university a lot of money through their play, you know, and so it's an opportunity to provide for them because they're providing back. I do think the is broken. Uh, and you've heard a lot of coaches talk about the revenue sharing and all that. I don't know where it's all going. I think it'd be great if there was a way to come up with a way to, to get rid of the putting all the burden on the donors. You know, the, the, the donor fatigue, fatigue is real. You keep hitting them for everything, you know, and allowing the people that come to the games to be able to, you know, however it is, there's a ticket surcharge or you round up a concessions or they get a part of parking or whatever it is that becomes legal with the NCA. I know they've come out and made a statement about things need to change from their standpoint too. So until that happens, you know, we're just gonna keep calling as many folks as we can. And like I said, after the last game, when you have 55,000 people at every game, there's a lot of folks that like watching and just to be a part of it, you know, to, to jump in with these guys and walk alongside of them and help them through their journey and, and to know that you're not just working on, you know, paying for scholarships and buildings and, but you're maybe helping a young man's family back home that doesn't have anything and helping them travel to games, you know, in different ways that the, the nil space has been tremendous. How has the portal changed? How you recruit high school? I mean, do you? Yeah, is there sort of a cut off line? Like if we don't think that guy is gonna produce in a year or two, then we've got to go get someone in the portal as opposed to, to waiting or, or how does that change things? Yeah, I mean, I don't look at it that way. We're still trying to develop players at NC State. You know, I think one of the things we do really well is that, uh I think d'antonio Burnett and his staff and Natalie, um and our nutrition and Justin and our sports med, like our developmental program is really good. And so we're going to continue to lean on that, you know, where the portal helps you is when you have holes in your roster due to other factors. Uh, you know, this year we had several guys leave our team because they weren't playing enough. And, and I get that after three years on a team, if you're not playing, I mean, when I went to college. I wanted to play. Now, I'm not saying after one year you should make that call. I think it takes some time at this level to get on the field. If you're in a top 20 program for a lot of kids, not all, but you know, when kids are leaving in year three, then you have those freshmen, those seniors in a gap. And that's for us where the portal is really helpful, is trying to figure out your depth and stagger, you know, the, the uh depth chart so that you don't go from senior to freshman or if you have a young man, leave to go to the NFL early, you know, and you try to find that one year guy that could come in because you thought you were gonna have a senior on the depth chart there. And so for us, it's really been a way of accentuating what we have. Uh or sometimes you're just not as talented in a spot as you wanna be and you go find someone that upgrades your talent there. So, you know, I, I think for us it's about putting together the best roster we can, you know, I said this to the staff the other day. It's like you have this beautiful puzzle and you leave the room and you come back and there's 30 pieces missing and you don't know who took them and now you gotta go find those pieces, you know, and they gotta fit and so we gotta go find them. Is it a high school guy? Is it a junior college guy? Is it a portal guy? And that's the reality? You know, and you can complain about it all you want or you can just adapt and that's what we're choosing to do at NC state is we want to be the best at evolving, you know, in this space and we're trying really hard to do so. And I think we're having great success to be honest. So it's gonna keep doing it every day trying to find a way to make it work within this challenging time that we have in college football. You, you mentioned the gaps. Do you have to look at adding another quarterback at some point, the transfer portal notwithstanding because you sort of do have a gap between kind of guys. Yeah, I mean, it just depends like we have a, a starter coming in here and I'm not gonna talk about him today, but, you know, it depends, we have the benefit of spring ball coming up and we start the last week of February and go through March and then there's another window, you know what I mean? So if we come out of that time frame and feel like we need to, then there's an opportunity to do that. We may not feel that way, you know, but we have time to figure that out. How does the pro staff helped all adapt quickly to the, yeah, it's completely changed my life. Like last year we, we felt completely unprepared for a lot of things that happened. You know, guys go to Portal and a lot of cases when they become legal to recruit, they've already got their top three schools, you know. And so for us it was more about figuring out why. Well, what are the kids that if they went in because they're from this area or they came on our campus or we offered them if they went in, what track them, you know, how are they doing out there? And if they went in, would they be guys we would consider, you know, so that if it happens, we're sitting there ready instead of, oh my gosh, this guy went in and so we did a lot of background, you know, for the what ifs in that office and that kept the coaches in the, the booth of coaching. And it really helped our staff not feel like we were just running around with their heads cut off. When we hit the road, we had a very detailed organized group and they did a great job, you know, kind of just cutting a lot of that leg, work out so that we could focus on the guys that we wanted to recruit once they hit the portal and, and then f continuing to work the high school kids that we've been on for years. Yeah. The biggest, I mean, say he had the biggest impact on our team, right, of any new player probably did. And so, yeah, I mean, age doesn't mean they're gonna be better all the time. It doesn't, one thing you can't do though is, is make a guy experienced, you know, and so there is something to have in that experience in the Royal. Yeah, I mean, Ronnie Royal again, one of the best football players in the country, like when you look at what that guy did, I don't know if you guys saw his stat line at the end of the year. Holy cow. But as a running back, as a returner, as a DB, his tackles, his wins and then really well coached, you know, coach, he's got a college staff coaching him at the high school level. Um So versatile player, Assad versatile player could play a corner, could play safety, can play nickel. And um you know, really savvy when you talk to him, understands football. Uh and I think that's part of what we do, you know, we cross train guys a lot. You'll see guys playing in multiple spots on defense here when you talk about Elijah Groves, a very versatile athlete. Um he will be a guy has to develop, you know, he's a basketball player, he scored 31 points the other night, like so he's gonna be thinner, you know, when he gets out of basketball and then he's gonna have to get back in the weight room, but he'll develop and, you know, he's got a nice long frame. He can jump and run and he reminds me of, uh, you know, um, I'm trying to think player, we had a couple of years ago, 31 helped me out. Correct pass rusher pump block. Phenom, Levi Jones. Thank you, man. Senior moment right there. A bunch of you guys had one with me. Uh, yeah, Levi Jones, similar body, you know, long and, and slinky and can make guys make great pass rusher block kicks, long arms jump. Yeah, he reminded us of Levi a lot in recruiting and so just, I know Coach Gibson's excited, you know, last year we brought in Kelvin mcbride had a similar body just trying to get longer and be able to play in space with some longer body types. And so that was mission accomplished. We were thankful that another guy that was committed somewhere else that opened it back up, kind at the end of that. Yeah, with red, you know what you enjoyed about recruiting junior college players and, um, what excites you about if you've ever been to a junior college? Most of them are pretty rough. Uh, kids don't have a lot of amenities. There's very few things that they get, they're well coached. Um, and it's a tough lifestyle for some of them. And so I kinda like the, the toughness that they bring, you know, they're very, there's a lot of gratitude when those guys come in here, they're untitled for sure. It's like, oh my gosh, you're gonna wash my clothes for me. You know, like you're gonna give me a pair of socks, you know, I mean, they're thankful and, and they don't complain about all the food, you know, like the food here compared to what they were eating at Juco, you know. so I like that about him. Uh I also felt like with the portal that the Ducos were getting under recruited, I felt like it was an area where we could find some guys, you know, where other people were being lazy. Um And I've had a lot of success back to Kansas when I was at University of Kansas recruiting the Jayhawk League. There's a lot of really good Juco S in that area. Yeah. And so Coach De Forest, same thing has been in all those Ducos. And so we leaned into some of our old experiences there, I think and had some success and um we don't have a ton of guys from that area, but, you know, Dante coming in from Butler County, great community college and, and he's from, from Canada originally, but him and coach and I really hit it off and um Wyatt Wright, just a really physical athletic linebacker and we were looking for an older guy. Um, so those two guys were really good fits and there's still a few more that we're recruiting, they haven't made decisions yet. And those area so we'll see where that goes. Like when you can bring in kind of legacy with Zane Williams and Isaiah Jones. Yeah, it was cool to have, uh, Zane, um, you know, when I offered him and Seth was in the office and, and his whole family and, and, uh, it was a neat moment, you know, cause they didn't get that from us in high school. Seth had to earn it while he was here. And so, and then, you know, they would, you know, has two relatives here with the Marcus Jones and, and then, um, in the weight room, Marcus. So, yeah, I think the family piece, you see the same thing with the Thomas is here, you know, there's some family that have rolled through our program and yeah, it's always special to have that. What do you think about your family and you know, trusting you with, with their kids? Well, I think, uh, it might be the best sales thing there is like if you're gonna send your son and then it works out, then your next son and then, oh my, your next son. Like we're obviously doing something, right? Because they don't have to do that. Like they could have sent him to a lot of other places. You know, it says a lot about the experience that they're getting in our program and how we treat them and, and, uh, how we grow them up. And so, yeah, that's, that's a very big honor for me. Like when a parent not just gives me one, but then a couple of years later the next, like, that's a good sign. I'm sure there was a point in the season where you probably wanted James Scott to suit up for you guys when you were down to two running backs. But he could have too. He's really good that he fits a need. You know, he's also one of the players and I'm sure there are several others who at other schools swing by or do different things, but you had zero D commitments. What does that say about? Yeah. Well, I think one, it's, our staff does a great job recruiting. It's not just one coach, they're talking to a lot of people and, and that's important for a variety of reasons. But uh, Jaden Duke Scott, he goes by Duke. What a great player and a heck of a season. He played 15 games, I think and durable, tough, physical fast. Uh got an edge to him, incredibly intelligent. So, yeah, he's gonna be a guy that plays early and he would have played this year if he would have been here, he would have, I mean, he's, he's talented, so excited. A lot of these guys you can say that about, you know, but uh yeah, Duke coach go was the lead guy on him and did a really good job building that relationship. We need to get him the last couple of days and then his recruit. Yeah. Well, sitting in the locker room after practice yesterday and he facetimed me and gave me the, the, uh, the great news and, uh, I was excited, man. I was really excited. So I saw what he did, you know, throughout the season, 100 plus catches and you name it. The guy had an incredible year state champion and have so much respect for coach Capone at Weddington and what he had to say about him as a competitor. So that was a great call to get you. You mentioned the wide receivers earlier, but did switching offenses put you guys in for some other players that, that maybe you wouldn't have been in the past who, who wanted to play in an offense like coach and Oz maybe, you know, I, I don't know, um I think opportunity for one. Yeah, that probably that the switch at that time just also kind of what had happened in that room and we've had some guys transfer out. So there was some opportunity there. Numbers wise, I think people saw the load that Casey was carrying. And, um, I do think when you watch coach and I's offense, the one thing that sticks out is that he gets the players the ball that know how to do something with it. And if you're a playmaker that's what you wanna see, you wanna see guys getting the ball that deserve the football. And so there's some guys that are hungry to come in and, and earn that what we call the circle of trust for coach. And I, you get in the circle of trust to him, he gets the football to you and, uh, taking some of that burden off of KC too, you know, and then where he doesn't have to do as much, um, particularly probably as a running back. Uh, the winning backgrounds. A lot of these guys have, I think the 3d line maybe combined for like two or three losses. One won a state title. What is it like to have, you know, big strong guys for th to m Yeah, we, we had chasing, uh, in the summer. It was amazing that he didn't have a lot more going on. I think he's got tremendous upside and comes from a great program at Mass and, uh, championship team. Um, just went down to Rome last week and, and, uh, spent some time at the high school down there with Justin TJ. T we call him but he's a stud and that kid's gonna play, man. He got vent hands and quick, quick feet gets off blocks can see things. Um, I like the way he goes about his work. He's really talented and, uh, coach Reid, the head coach at Rome does a really good job with his program. Kind of preaches the same stuff, you know, a lot of hard T together DNA and that young man. So, you know, it's great getting those guys and having an opportunity to coach two guys that have won so many games. And I think, um, the defensive line here, um, every year you wanna try to get three or four, you know, guys and those, those big guys that can run and, and do things. So it's a good group and excited, you know, to get him on campus and let coach Thunder get to work with them and, and see where they can go physically because obviously what they are now is not even gonna be close to what they are after a few years, you know, with him. And I think Josh is the same way when you look at him, you know, in the weight room, what he's gonna grow into because this program is so clearly a destination for. Well, I, I'm glad we're getting more notoriety. Um You finish in the top 24 years in a row and still feels like you're under the radar every year. Like my start preseason rankings were never in them. And it's like, I don't know what you have to do to, for people to recognize that you have a program that wins every year and puts players in the NFL every year and graduates through players every year and, and win against other ranked teams every year. We keep doing that and, and so I'm glad to see that people are actually paying attention. Uh These kids have earned that recognition. Uh This program has earned that recognition. There's only four teams in the power five that have won eight plus games, four years in a row. We're one of those four and so Alabama, Georgia, Notre Dame and us, and that's pretty good company. Um, so I'm glad we're getting it, you know, and now he just got to keep doing it and hopefully we can get this 10th, 1, last two questions, had to hit the ground running when he got hired. And then, um what was it like to kind of see the, the adjustment uh in off the line if there was any in, in his approach? Yeah, I mean, Garrett does a great job. He's a relationship guy, super positive and highly energetic. Works really hard at it. You know, I think his experience as a head coach, which he was at the junior college level for a long time helped him, um, in that chair, you learn a lot about people and, and I to, you know, run a program and, and now you're just dealing with 19 guys or 20 guys when you count your walk-ons in the align room. But he did a great job building relationships and uh identifying talent and still is we're still recruiting, you know, offensive linemen right now. But, you know, Robbie Martin was a player, you know, one of the best players and the best player probably in his position group in West Virginia. And, uh, coach did a great job there, you know, building that relationship, excited to get him in here. Um, he sat on my couch in my office and put his arms out and his fingers wrapped around both edges of the couch. You know, that's how long his wings span was. I was like, wow, uh, it was pretty impressive, you know, to see that and Trent Mitchell, big long kid, tough kid. Um, he's got a body that, you know, Coach Thunder is gonna love working with him. I know developing him. It's gonna be something that would be fun to watch. I think, you know, as you look at other guys, we're recruiting, you'll see that when we get in here. But coach does a really good job developing players and I think the previous O line coach, Coach Garrison did the same, you know, and, and that's a tribute to those guys. And, um, I think, you know, we put a lot of linemen in the NFL and it's kind of a place kids wanna come like, you know, when you go into a team meeting and the head coach starts handing out syrup bottles. Those guys get excited and a lot of schools offensive linemen don't get any attention at all from the staff. And so we try to do a lot for those guys to reward the, the big uglies, the guys that make the trenches fun. And uh Tyler West, you know, is another one from Andrews, North Carolina and, and uh tough kid Andrews high school winning program. Uh Very intelligent guy as well. Um They'll come in here and work really hard for us. So excited about those additions, Dave, I don't know if you saw the comments that Matt Brown made just earlier today. Uh He was disappointed he said in some of the comments I got caught on the AC C network after the UN CNC State game, uh said it was classless. I just want to give you an opportunity to, to respond to, to what coach Brown said. And do you have any regret about what got caught on camera there in the locker room? Well, you should have heard what I said about myself and my own team after we lost to Duke in that locker room. Um First of all, when we go to these meetings, we're supposed to get notice that there's a camera in our locker room and that was not done. And so, you know, I have a lot of regret that that was on TV, because it shouldn't have been when you go into a locker room with your team. That that is a private conversation unless they ask if they can be in there with a camera. And that was not asked, that doesn't give me an excuse to have that public. Um, but that's what happened. No one told me. And obviously, if I knew I was on camera, my language would not have been what it was. Uh, it doesn't make it any better. No. And I did call coach and apologize, um, because I could have used a lot of different words. Obviously, you caught me in the heat of a moment situation in the locker room celebrating a huge win and I was fired up about how we played, you know, but, uh, I have respect for coach and, and, you know, so last thing I wanted was for him to feel that and again, it's not an excuse, but it shouldn't have been on TV. And, and I think there's 1000 coaches out there would tell you that, you know, if we had to apologize for everything we said in the locker room, we'd probably spend a lot of time doing that. You know, it's a place where a lot of emotion comes out, right. But yeah, I could have said that in a much more professional way and regret not doing that, but I don't regret is having passion with my players and celebrating a big win. And, uh, I'm gonna continue to do that and hopefully down the road, we'll get the courtesy that we deserve when we're gonna be on TV, uh, in those moments. So, but I understand, you know, their side of it and, you know, it's signing day rather talk about that. You, you, you said you did call him already and you expressed regret to Brown even before today or a couple of weeks ago. Got you. All right. Thank you guys. Yeah, I mean, why not? We're supposed to know that. So it was funny when you said you thought that was quite.