Duke head football coach. Mike Elko joining us here at A. C. C. Kickoff alongside joe Giulio. I'm joe venus talking season is about to wrap up. Finally get to play football soon. You gotta hype about that. I can't wait to get this thing rolling. It feels like it feels like forever since we were on the field playing some football. Talking about football, it would seem like we want to talk about everything. But what goes on in between the lines these days. So it'll be excited to get into some exynos and get this thing rolling. It's, it's been the last time we talked to you. You just essentially just got the job and getting ready for the spring game and everything else. So it's been about work. You know, it's, I mean, I've seen it on social media. You guys are completely reworked social media. Uh, you have expectations for this year despite the fact that, you know, Duke is coming from some last place positions in both offensive decide. So what is the message to the players? What's your expectation this season? What do you want? Yeah, compete. Let's just go out there and compete. Let's, let's become the best version of ourselves. Let's go out there. Let's lay it on the line every week. Let's play with some passion. Let's play with some energy and, and let's see where that takes us and, and don't be defined by the past and don't be defined by other people's expectations. Um, and let's just go lay it on the line and see what happens And you never know. Michael ko Duke's football coach joining us here on the O. G. That's joe obvious I'm joe Giulio. Alright, forgive my ignorance here. Last time we talked I'm like, oh yeah, Mike. I'll go work with Dave Clawson at Wake Forest. No, no Fordham Richmond Bowling green. And of course Wake Forest, I just, we just had Dave Clawson on this program yesterday. No offense to you. I told him he's the best coach in the A. C. C. What did you learn from the best coach in the A. C. C. And all of those stops? Yeah. I just think, you know, Dave groomed me from an organization standpoint from an understanding how to be ceo of a program, um, you know, and kind of putting, putting a stamp on the culture that you want the program to be about. You know, and so I think him and I are a little different in some ways. But I think organizationally if you looked at the two programs are probably very similar. Dave wasn't an overnight guy at any of those stops as you know, either. How important is it to be patient when you're trying to turn a program around? Yeah. So that's probably one of the differences. I don't, I don't have patients, you know, and, and um, and that's, that's not, it won't be required, you know, you know, But I think, you know, you wanna walk, walk a very fine line and now today's college football of, we've got to push the envelope to be as successful as, as we can be as fast as we can get there without like doing that with tunnel vision. That doesn't have a broader scope of where you ultimately want your program to go right. And so you're just walking that fine line and trying to balance that every day. Are you still trying to figure out who to hate? No, I'm pretty, pretty settled in on that Carolina. I think I've got that when you play against Carolina. So we played Carolina one time. No, I played the crossover crossover. Then the nonconference series started after I left. But then, and then I went down and played them at Notre dame and then place them in the bowl game at A and M. So I've gotten a little bit of a taste of that. Okay. The rivalries the rivalries. But I mean we talked about this with Dave Clawson yesterday to where you had the wake Forest NC State matchups. Like that's the thing about the A. C. C. That people might not know in the triangles. Like everybody has some beef with everybody else when it comes to football, especially in football. You can't put, you can't put schools so close together and not create a little bit of beef. Right? Exactly. That's the nature of the sports you also get to experience for, it's the one and only time you're gonna get to experience it. But its coastal chaos. The CO seven all seven have won the division at some point in time which is pretty wild and this they're going to division one football first and foremost. Do you like the direction of division list football and the and the 335 schedule that's been coming? I know it's a it's a hotly contested thing in the coaches meetings at Amelia Island. Obviously what the wants might not be what the coaches want but what did you want in that conversation? I mean I think you've got to be open to ideas. I think obviously we've got to do the things that we need to do to grow the league and the market the league and um certainly a lot of merit to the concept of getting our schools to play each other more often. You know it's it's crazy to think that you play one school once every seven years. Um That just doesn't seem like a conference. Um You know it'll be a little bit interesting getting used to not competing for the conference title every year. That's for sure. But um but no I think I think by and large you gotta support what the A. C. C. Believes it's gonna help take our program where we wanted to go hey tell the kids the last year the coast we'll go out and win it be the last coastal division chance. You're probably wondering why we have these two forties of Miller high life after spending time with you guys. I was just kind of wait before we get to that? Yeah, I'm gonna try to ask as tactfully as possible. We covered, you work with Dave Clawson measured smart talks in a very purposeful way, right? three years with Jimbo, 4, 4 years with Jimbo at one point where you're like Jimbo, can you breathe like he talks like it's rapid fire. So I'll just say this because this will be my politically correct answer to all of it. But no, it's, it's really been unique. So I've gotten a chance to work for some really successful head football coaches, right? And obviously Dave is one and, and Dave is in one direction and then, you know, probably 100 and 80 degrees in another direction was brian kelly. And then if you could figure out how in the geometry of the world to get another 180 degrees and wind up somewhere completely different, you know, that's Jimbo and, and I think the thing that you take away from it all is that they're who they are right, that they have their own personality, They run their programs the way they believe they run them with conviction and they've been very successful and I think that's been my, my goal. You learn some things along the way, but do it your way. Do you get press conference Jimbo in the meeting rooms too. Is there an off switch there is, you know, sometimes I felt like he was auditioning Jimbo was awesome. You know, I enjoyed those four years. I learned so much from him right now. It's time you ready, joe. Yes, we're ready. We're ready. Alright. So for for the purposes, so we've got these, if you're listening on radio, we've got these two high lifes, forties of high life, it's the last year of the coastal. There's only one way to pay where there's only one way to pay our proper respects to the coastal division. You put the mic down, it's fine And that is to is to pour one out for the coastal. Here you go, joe. You wanna, you wanna open this one up to, you could, yeah, we could do it with them, we can do it with them. So it's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday. R. I. P. The coastal cheers you gave us so much chaos and love. We appreciate that coach, You're the best. Thank you for that. We will talk to you later.