I'm torn as to whether or not this is a great hire. I'm like, Manny Diaz has been a very good defensive coordinator, but the Miami job which is difficult was a little bit much for him. Maybe the Duke job, which I think is significantly more difficult will be better ben by Bull City coordinators who joined us. Uh, after Mike Elko left, we, uh we, we wondered if Mike Elko was uh biting off more than he could chew down at Texas A and M. Uh All right, sir. Is Manny Diaz if, if this ultimately comes to fruition, are you on board with this? Well, thanks Adam for having me back on. I appreciate it. Uh As far as am I on board with this? Absolutely. And I would just caution like you did already. We don't want another repeat of the Gasparilla Bowl situation. So wait till it's official. Uh However, I would note that Pete Tamil is the one who is reporting a lot about this and he is also the one who reported on Elko that got a lot of that going. So I think there's a reason to trust that, but I think that, that if this happens, this is a, is a big hire and, and, and a good one and I'm happy to explain my thoughts on that. Please. Please do. First of all, maybe Pete Thamel is the one who updated Manny Diaz's Wikipedia page because anybody can go in and update it. That's, that's true. It could, it could be, I mean, you gotta self promote, right? Uh, so that's good. But there's 22 reasons for that. Uh uh that I think that it's, it's a, it's a big hire. The first is he has ties to coach Fly, who is the uh either athletic performance or strength and conditioning, coach, whatever term you wanna use. That's big because Elko said the most important and I'm paraphrasing hire he made at Duke was fly and the students they love, they love coach fee. I mean, he is, he is a big part of the reason for Duke's success over the last two years. All right, let me just give people context. David Feeley is uh his title, associate director of sports, performance, director of football, sports, performance, strength and conditioning and all of that that goes into it. So people know who we're talking about. Exactly. And that's, that's, it's a long way to say what we used to call strength and conditioning. Right? So, II, I will say this, this would be another reason that I, that this is a good hire and it shows that Duke is a good program that is on the rise. Ok. Look at the three hires since 2007. When David Cutcliffe came on board, David Cutcliffe, respected offensive coordinator, prior head coaching experience with proven results from the SEC. Right, Mike Elko, well respected defensive coordinator, proven results in the SEC. And now you're getting someone to come from Penn State and the big 10, which is allegedly a good football conference. But whatever we can say that for another day, that's a big hire and that's three big names and, and, and Diaz had a good run at Miami. I know people might not think that but that last team he had where they really beat the wheels off of the Blue Devils. I mean, just took them part and then he gets to let go after that, that team was real close to 10 wins, go back and look at the box scores from that season. I'm just saying three bowl games, three years. He inherited a mess at Miami and they haven't quite climbed out of that yet. That could be a real big hire for Duke. Well, see, I don't, I don't disagree with that uh of uh of Diaz. I, I'm, I'm sketchy on the details. You, you may have dug into these a lot more than uh than I have. You definitely have, I'm sure. Um but the like managing games was not always a great strong suit, but he was also uh that was the first time for him. So, and to me that job is probably too much for somebody as a first time hire. There's too many things, too many politicians. Uh, and I'm not talking about it in the politics sense, but there is so much around that program. Uh There's way too much to deal with for a first time head coach. Although I guess technically it was a second time head coach because he had taken the Temple job two weeks prior to going back to Miami. Uh, but his, his acumen and his resume as a defensive coordinator in like tons of leagues, whether it's small at middle Tennessee, uh, or big at Mississippi State, even Texas, he worked for Mac Brown. I think Mac thinks very highly of him. Maybe that's not a good thing. I don't, no idea. Uh, we can make jokes about it all day long, but, uh, he certainly comes with a, with a pretty extensive job history. That's correct. And I was, it was funny, you mentioned Wikipedia that page is all blown up with edits right now. So it's, it's hard to, hard to make sense of. But, you know, he's got ties to the AC C. He was at Florida State, he was at NC State, he was at Miami and he is a fairly young guy and I guarantee you, he has learned to of a lot from being at Penn State and reflecting on that coaching job. And I think we would all agree that David Cutcliffe was better in round two after his experience with at Ole Miss. So as far as who's out there, you could go with the young up and comer, we talked about that previously, but I am certain there were other schools that wanted to get Manny Diaz. And I think this says a lot about where Duke is and where it's going now next year could be rough. We probably don't have enough time to talk about the roster and the portal, but he's gonna come in with ties to a lot of different coaching trees to be able to probably put a really good staff together. All right, let me ask you very quickly because I did want to ask you about the roster. Ben Bird from Bowl city coordinators is joining us here uh on the Adam Gold Show. So final thing on this, you, uh you had told us a couple of weeks ago that the, the the portal was not gonna be kind to the Blue Devils and we know what has happened. Riley Leonard's gonna end up at Notre Dame. It looks like, uh, and a lot of different players have already, uh, exited out the door. Um I my guess is that that will likely continue, uh, but it's also got to go the other way last year. Uh Mike Elko basically was a net positive. Uh, and a lot of people probably were surprised at that. Uh What is your sense of what the roster is going to look like? Really before we even get to the portal? Uh What do you think Duke will have in house for Manny Diaz if it is? In fact Manny Diaz? Well, that's, that's a really good question and I'm hoping it's gonna grind to a halt because there have been guys on the D line who are leaving Jon Franklin's gonna declare for the NFL draft. You know, he is gonna play in the Birmingham Bowl, Dorian Mausi, the linebacker, he's leaving a people. Uh Peebles is entered, excuse me, the portal and that's uh man, if he goes to Florida State, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to intellectually process that. And then the top two running backs in Jordan Waters and Jacques Moore are also leaving. However, Elko inherited kind of a similar situation where nobody really knew what you were gonna get. And, you know, a guy with the name recognition of Diaz and ties to places can probably bring in some folks. So, you know, it may be next year is kind of a restructuring, reorganization year and then we'll see, you know, in another, uh another year to where the team gets. But I, you know, I will add this, there's two pretty good quarterbacks on the roster there who are gonna be there and Loftus and be and so, II I wouldn't quite say it's the time to panic, but there is time for uncertainty. Uh What about RJ Oben? Honestly, I've been trying to keep up with this. I think he might be gone as well. He, he entered the portal as well. Yeah, that, that, that is a significant loss. That's a significant loss. He, he, as I'm sure you're aware he really made a lot of plays and that's their whole defense, made a lot of plays. If you played defense for Duke last year, you made plays. That was what they did. Uh It was remarkable. I saw it against the Clemson game against Clemson in the opener. I'm like, wait a second. That ain't a good defense. That's good for Duke. That's a defense that's good for anybody. Any team put that defense on the field, we would be talking about it. That's what, that's what really stunned me about that game is that it didn't look like a Duke defense. It looked like a, I mean, a top college football defense and I don't mean that to be disparaging. Uh There was speed and physicality and aggression all over the field. Uh uh like, and, but that's Manny Diaz's specialty. So he is a defensive guy to the core. He started out as a DB back, a DB coach under Chuck Amato at NC State. 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