on the false sports through the count remainder of the calendar year. The participants today on the Webinars Pac 12 Commissioner Larry Scott, University of Oregon President Michael Shill, Arizona State athletic director Ray Anderson and Doug Dr Doug Aquaman, the arrogant state senior associate athletic director for sports medicine. The call will be hosted by Pac 12 networks, Yogi Roth and Ashley Adamson. They'll have a discussion here with the panel for about 15 minutes, and then we'll take questions from the media again. This call has been recorded, the WEBINAR has been recorded and we will distribute to all media post post webinar. At this time, we'd like to turn it over to, actually in Yogi. Right? Dave, Thank you so much, Jenna. Reminder that this is also streaming live on practice 12 dot com and Pac 12 Network right now. So hello. It's all of you watching. Commissioner Scott will start with you. Um, obviously a lot of detail in the press release that just went out. But can you kind of give us a big picture summary of the vote this morning And what all went into the decision to postpone sports through the end of the calendar year. Yes, thank you and thank you for those that are joining us here today. This was an extremely difficult and painful decision that we know will have important impacts on our student athletes, coaches, administrators and our fans. And I know nothing that we can say Well, ease some of that disappointment, especially for some of our seniors. But we're here today to announce the Pac 12 CEO group has decided to postpone all sport competition through the end of the 2020 calendar year. This decision was made after consultation with athletics directors are coaches, football working groups and with the Pac 12 Cove in 19 Medical Advisory Committee, who expressed concern with moving forward with contact practice. After reviewing all the data and considering the alternatives and having already delayed the start of our season and compressed our season CEO group was unanimous that this result that this result is decision was necessary. There were many aspects that were considered that fellow Panelists will talk about today, but you know, student athletes, you know, are not. We cannot bubble. Our student athletes, like pro sports, can were part of broader campus communities, student athletes, a living with your students on campus interacting and for reasons I will be identified on here. You know enough questions and concerns had been raised that on an answers we need more time. We need that. We didn't feel comfortable moving forward. The health, safety and well being of our student athletes and all those connected to Pac 12 sports has from day one been our top top priority, and it was the top already today or student and the student athletes will be impacted by this. I want to be clear, are going to have their scholarships guaranteed. And we're going to strongly encourage the N C A. To support that with some of their upcoming decisions as well, when it comes to eligibility time to complete degrees on other related academic issues. And so with that president she'll I'd like Teoh talk to you about, you know, you're the chair of the CEO group from the outside 11 days ago, you know, CEO, sign off on ah, plan for the football season to start in late September, September 26. Can you walk us through kind of what happens? Whether it was the last week and 1/2 or, you know, in the months leading up to today, take us inside and tell us kind of how that decision changed. Well, you know, as Larry said, our number one consideration all the way through is the health and safety of our student athletes. And we have been talking, you know, ever since this nightmare began back in the late winter, early spring, about what we would do and how we would approach this with regard. Teoh, intercollegiate athletics and what we ended up talking about in a really very good and collegial way, an inclusive way we've met with. We met with students. We met with our ladies constantly, our coaches with the medical advisory board. We listened, Jack, all of the views, and we determined, as as Larry indicated, that there's just too many questions. There's too much uncertainty right now that we would feel comfortable beginning contact sports on. And so what we decided was that essentially, what we would do is put a pause. Basically, you know, until, uh, 2021 on will constantly be reassessing the data. One of things that's really important is that you know we're science based, right? We are We're academics, we are going to be looking at facts, not just opinions, and and that's something that that we're deeply committed to At the same time, um is, Larry said. We we fully understand that this has had This has tremendous human impacts. We have students whose dream it was to play this year on. That dream, at least in the fall, is not going to happen. We have families, we have coaches. We have all sorts of people who are hoping that we'd be able to do this and that's one of the reasons why. Uh, we delayed our decision until now. We wanted to really give it the best shot and but in the end we looked at the recent cardiac evidence that Dr Aquaman is going to talk about. We looked at spread, which was increasing in some of our areas. We looked at government directives. We just said there's too many questions, too much uncertainty, so we will continue to assess and hopefully we'll be playing in the spring and with that said Dr Aquaman, want to follow up with you. It's been very clear since the beginning of this that the return of sports would be guided by the medical advisory committee, the committee that you guide. And you're a big part of How did you get to the place in the agreement that it's not safe to move forward this season? The timeline that we just referenced? Yeah, we've been unfortunate. We've had 24 really dedicated physicians and infectious disease experts and, more recently, some additional sports cardiology experts join our crew, and we'd meet you at least two hours a week and talking. We've been doing that continuously for some time, the U As we move closer towards the date where we were to begin contact practice, we were really concerned with a couple items, and one is that Croteau virus is still very prevalent in many of our institutional communities, and by metrics that are out there is not considered to be well controlled or uncontrolled at this time. The other issue is that there is some emerging data about some health rests that effect athletes and specifically the cardiac side effects of of potential covert infections that we don't know enough about. And so we became more concerned about that, and that's kind of how we began. Teoh start looking at, You know how. How can we make sure that we provide the safest opportunity, the safest environment for our student athletes to compete and exercise when social distancing can no longer be maintained? I mean, we're essentially by going into a contact season, asking them right now to disregard a lot of the guidelines, both federally and locally from the health department, the CBC, the socially distance and physically distanced it to decrease the spread of this disease. And instead, you know, playing contact sports we know is a condition where it's going to be higher risk of spread well said And Ray, in your chair, you're around. So Maney student athletes. I think about seniors, fifth year seniors going into this year, how are you gonna communicate to them what's going on and what is? You know it's early, but what do you think? The next step? Maybe for your student athletes on campus? Well, we're going to gather with all of our student athletes and coaches to talk about where we are. More importantly, we hope to educate them, even mawr completely about the steps that went into us finally getting here. All of us want to play sports everything Naftali? No, by the way, it's not just football for soccer and volleyball, and there's cross country on. There's wrestling and there are other sports who are preparing now who will be impacted by this decision. But as President Shell and Commissioner Scott said from day one with this thing first broke back on, Uh, what was it? March 11? Uh, it was our duty to look to the health and safety of our student athletes. And we knew from the beginning, and particularly as we got educated along the way that this virus is gonna be very fluid. Eso we're going to be dictated on, really guided by the science and medicine eso as it has moved along, we tried Teoh make adjustments, Teoh change schedules, uh, make adjustments with workouts. We want to play in the worst way, but not at the risk of the health and safety. So with the inconsistencies, uh, in the virus and then with this additional information coming out that says you just don't have enough to make decisions, particularly going into contact sports with these young men and women to put them at risk on as Ella Athletic directors and medical folks and, uh, presidents and chancellors and coaches in office. Commissioner on the way down. We're just not going to do that now. We want to hope. Now. I hope that we have postponed, but we have not cancelled. We're going to hold out hope that things will change and we will be able to go into competition. Eso, as an athletic director in this conference and speaking for my colleagues, were very proud of the way we proceeded in this and on. And I do trust in our student athletes, and our coaches and their families are confident that we have done this with their interest in mind from day one and will continue to do so, led by the science and the medicine, with the great input from Dr Ackerman and others in this convoy. You know, Ray to follow up on that. I think there's a lot of people that would say that the heart of this is maybe a liability issue and that, given the chance, there's plenty of student athletes who would gladly sign a liability waiver for a chance to play this season. Why, why isn't that an option? It's not an option because our responsibilities air, not about liabilities are responsibilities about accountability to these student athletes and their families. Short and long term eso We can't waive our duties and obligation to protect them. Driven by the science and medicine, we're not driven by lawyers who say well will relieve you of liability. That's not what floats the boat in this conference, so we have responsibilities and accountability. And so the science and the medicine says we cannot allow you to go forward right now, so we won't, uh, there are a lot of I hear this talk about, you know, we'll side like, well, sign a waiver we want to play so badly coaches talking about we've got to play well, we don't have to play until it's safe. And we can literally guarantee the health and safety of our student athletes not just now, but their lives going forward because we don't know the impacts going forward. And until we have more clarity, we're not gonna go for That's where we are. So the liability thing other folks can talk about that were about accountability and responsibility to our student athlete. Speaking of that, Commissioner Scott, I'm sure, every athlete watching football. Of course it's a art. So are we gonna play in the spring? And then do we play in the fall again? You know what are the next steps towards potentially playing in 2021 1 season, let alone one full season in a shortened season? Well, we know the situation is gonna going to improve. Were optimistic. You know, when and how and when the conditions were right. That everyone feels comfortable moving to contact practice and then thinking about season starting are really all quite question marks at the moment. So, like we've done every step along the way Ray talked about, we're going to continue to monitor. We're going to continue to evaluate and when the conditions improve, which were confident they will. Then we're going to evaluate what we can dio in terms of all schools, not just football, but it's clear based on the medical advice recommended. We don't start with contact practice or a DS football coaches. Others came together and felt they were not going to have to start football and our fall Olympic sports on time as planned, which is already delayed September 26 it's important. Give clarity to student. I think there's been a ton of great uncertainty and great anxiety for everyone. So we also feel a responsibility based on all the trends that we've seen to try to give some of that certainty and clarity. And that's why we've said not before January 1st so people can plan, you know, emotionally, psychologically as well as physically. Um, and we got a lot of work to do, and we don't have every question answered right now. So, um, we're gonna dig back in split extractors, football coaches, football working group, others peers from other conferences to continue are scenario planning all along. I think we said, You know, we got Scenario A, B, C, D and E and we moved from scenario eight. A scenario be in July 1 went to conference only 10 game schedule and now you know we're moving to another scenario what that looks like. We've got more work to do but know that as soon as we feel comfortable on that, it's it's safer, and some of these questions are answered where we feel more comfortable. As soon as that's possible, we're gonna wanna play, and there are, but there are a lot more questions than it was. A lot of media members air standing by waiting to ask those questions. So last thing for me would be for you, Dr. Ackerman. You look at the news coming out of the other power five conferences, even this morning, and there's Ah lot of conflicting information. Obviously, the Big 10 arrived at the same conclusion that you all did. But the SEC and A. C C are in a different boat as of right now. So I just love to ask how much information sharing or collaboration has taken place between the different medical advisory groups between the conferences? And is there an explanation for why there could be so much disparity and how everyone is sort of interpreting the data right now? Well, each of the power five Conference medical groups did interact once a week for the last couple of months on ah, working group. And so there has been some discussion about the issues and concerns. But, you know, I can't speak as to how they're going to deliberate and come to their final conclusions or thought processes. What I can say is that, um that are infectious disease and public health doctors and sports cardiologists, consultants as well as our physicians have have really taken a lot of time and effort in this thought process. We all would love to see sports as much as anyone else, but we want to see it done in a very safe manner. And it just became really evident to us that as we looked at the the prevalence is of Corona virus in our communities of the Pac 12 as we looked at traveling and the logistics of some of our sports traveling commercially and as we looked at, um, making sure that that we could stop the spread of Corona virus if somebody, either a staff member and athlete, got it, that that that once we started becoming more concerned about some of the side effects of some of the other health outcomes that we don't know what the short and long term consequences are yet that we felt that that we have to shift to Ah, a mindset of not just trying to stop spread, but we need to be able to identify and remove anybody who has corona virus right away, and that becomes incredibly difficult when you're in a community where the spread is not controlled, Um, or if it's not under under some type of availability to mitigate it because our student athletes are students and you know they're going to go to the grocery store, they're going to go to restaurants, they're gonna interact with the community, and we want them to. It's not appropriate to think that weaken, bubble them, um, and isolate them. And therefore, we just We felt that the that it was just very, very difficult to try and do this in a way that we thought was safe enough for our student athletes that that we would support and president show before we turn over to the media, like to follow up with you, take us inside the room with the other CEO. Oh's I mean, this is a big deal. This decision, it's a historic deal. How was it discussed and how was, you know, the burden of the responsibility to make that decision dealt with with you and your fellow colleagues? We we have been discussing it for months now, uh, you know what we were going to be doing this year? And we we all know each other quite well. And so it was. People were sad that that we are unable to go forward with season. People are looking forward to it, and not just because it's fun, but because of all the reasons why we support student athletes on DSO we and we realized that this was going to be a big disappointment. So but one of the things that we was very important wasn't has been important to meet the Pac 12. We view ourselves as you know, a. Perhaps the most progressive of the conferences were we think ahead. We care deeply about this student experience in about student welfare and work, and we always put that number one. And so we went into today's meeting. We all knew we were gonna be together. We knew that we wanted it to be unanimous and and it was unanimous. Um, and and so there was no big drama that were no fights. There were no disagreements. Probably the biggest disagreement that we had was over the wording of the press release on and and then then, you know, should've dog being are something like that. We're all in this together and we all recognize, you know, when we were on the field, we're going to compete as hard as we can with each other. But when we're back in our offices and thinking about you know, what we care about the most were together. I appreciate that sentiment. I know Yogi and I have already gone over our time, so we Ah, we thank the four of you for being here today. I know the media has a lot of questions. We will turn it back over to Dave Hirsh, who will mediate that part of the session. But thank you to you all. All right. Thanks, Ashleigh. In Yogi, at this time, we will take questions from the media. If you have a question, police select the raised hand icon on your screen to get placed into the queue. Up first will go to Dennis Dodd. Dennis, your lines open, Dennis, you need toe your line. Right? One more time for Dennis. Okay, We'll go to the next question. I'll come from James Trupia. James. Go ahead. Thank you for President Shell. Uh, Rae and Larry. If a football player or any player in the fall sports in particular they come to you, they ask you, What should I do right now? Are they obligated? Teoh is they're obligated team activities right now. What's next for them, regardless of what the Division one Council says tomorrow and decides on eligibility and opting out all these things? What's next for an athlete at your schools or in your conference? Larry, Um, I can I can go first and then others, uh, can chime in. Um, the student athletes are going to continue to receive their scholarship and support from their universities. Each campus athletics director athletics department with coaches will decide exactly what that that looks like, but we are deeply committed to continue to support our student athletes. Technical answer is, they'll be able to continue in the in the 20 hours. It's permissive, but I think all of our campuses and programs now need to go back and look at what's in the best interest of the student athletes in terms of supporting them. And I'll say, you know, in addition to what Larry said, remember that the reason this takes place in universities is the these are our student athletes are getting an education, and so this provides them with an opportunity to really focus even more on the class work during this period. Get ahead and we will play again. Uh, the But, you know, we we feel very strongly that we want we want to support our student athletes, and we want each one of them to graduate with a degree from each of our schools. Okay, Our next question will go back to Dennis. Dennis, your line is open. All right. Can you hear me? OK, go ahead. OK, uh, this is for Ray. Um, Ray, I just thought of this. What are the potential? Um, implications of teams coming, transferring, coming after your players and in any players in the Pac 12? If cop there are conferences they were playing. And you're not that way. We don't know if they're gonna play. Are not what we believe Dennis's. We made the decision. That's in the best interest of our student athletes in their experience, I think our coaches are very confident. Our medical folks are very confident. Are far is a very confident I think all of us are confident that we made a decision without presidents and chancellors in the best interest of our student athletes on that will be appreciated because we will play again. To the extent that others think there is a on opportunity to essentially come recruit our players in. We would say, Hey have at we're not going to change what's important to us, which is protecting our student athletes. Worried about whether others want to come and try to essentially enticed our student athletes away. We think our student athletes will appreciate that we have done what is in their best interest, short and long term Dennis. And we're going to continue to do that. Great. And I've gotta follow up. Larry, if I could, uh very you included. Most everyone has said they're going to guarantee scholarships. What about guaranteeing eligibility for these athletes? Is that the discussion that has to be had? Thanks, Dennis. Yeah, we are strongly encouraging the to make decisions as quickly as possible to extend eligibility for student athletes. So what happened in the spring? And we're gonna put our shoulder completely behind supporting our student athletes if if they don't get to places to have another year back, Okay. Our next question will come from Kyle Bonera. Yeah. Hi, Larry question about how much interaction you had with the commissioners of the other 500 therefore par conferences. And what role? The direction the other conference. They're headed specifically today with the Big 10 and I'm sure the Big 10 announcement was discussed during the CEO group meeting today. I was wonder if you could share some inside into what that discussion was like. Hello? Call, Yeah, a something many of you know, we've had daily phone calls pretty much every day since, unfortunately, having a shutdown, basketball in spring sports and there's been a high degree of collaboration and working through with the otherwise are returned to voluntary workouts and this staged approach as well as through, you know, groups like Football Oversight Committee on otherwise. So we are sharing information chilling best practice. But at the end of the day, these air independent conferences with independent boards of presidents and chancellors ondas decisions you know, will get made independently. But there's been a very, very high degree of communication collaboration, and I think mutual respect, which, by the way, has gone beyond the commission's. We've had meetings with athletics directors amongst the five, I think is doctor. Dr. Ackerman stated the medical advisers from each of the 85 conferences at the meeting. Once a week for quite some time, they came out with some joint protocols. Olympic sports leads football, sports lead. We've had 45 work streams amongst the five conferences that have been working for the better part of the last couple months. But that doesn't mean we're gonna make the same decisions on same time frames, given that we are independent entities. And what about the when finding out about the Big 10 announcement today in the meeting? How was that received while you guys were all together talking? I guess virtually together, President Shell May may want to speak to that. Um, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that we have been discussing this for a while and and, you know, we knew that there was a parallel track with the Big 10 also discussing this, and, uh, we feel good about our decision. We would have made this decision independent of Big 10 were very happy. We We respect the institutions in the Big 10. Many of them have the same values that we have. And we're pleased that they're joining us. Okay? Our next question will come from Rachel. Bachmann. Don't head Rachel. Thanks. Appreciate it, Larry. This is for you. Does the January 1 ST mean that no sports start before then, Including winter sports? Like basketball? Yeah. Thanks, Rachel. You to clarify a competition wouldn't be restarted for January 1 Terms of sports and continuing to support student athletes in terms of their their training, the workouts, every school decide exactly what that means. But sports expect is gonna continue on and support is going to continue and subject to medical guidance. And when we can, that may ratchet up even to training contact at some stage if the conditions are warranted up. WAY said today is that competition it all sports wouldn't start before January 1. And that's in any sports, including fall sports and winter sports that would have started earlier, like basketball. And if I could interject for a moment, we also have to understand we operate the Pac 12 isn't the law in each of our jurisdictions. The county health authorities are to the law on our jurisdictions and the governor's until we operate under different rules. And so what will do during that period will first and foremost be guided by what? The underlying laws by the county Health authority or the governor. Thank you. Okay, next question will come from, uh, Josh Newman. Joshua Lines open. Hi, Larry. Um, before you guys opted to postpone to the spring how much consideration was given even with all the medical information, how much consideration was given to potentially delaying a couple more weeks trying to get your ducks in a row further and potentially starting in, you know, October with eight games or nine games? Potentially. Yeah. Thanks, Josh. Ah, lot as Ray knows, because he and his fellow eighties sit on these working groups and just gets a lot of different stairs. And we have eight game scenarios starting mid October and in late October. Um, and so those were available to us. Uh, but you know, as we look at where are counties are where the permissions are and projections and trends, frankly, from a medical adviser committed doug may want to speak to their way, came to the conclusion reluctantly that there's no indication that things are likely to change in terms of the criteria that influence this in the next few weeks, and we had a balance that out with the kind of clarity and certainty that our coaches and student National AIDS want. So that was a reluctant decision because it's president, Shell said. Before, for months and months we've been taking it very measured, step by step approach, looking in, letting science and data and government Public Health authority guidelines guide us. And so that would have been the logical. Next up we realized the tradeoff. There is this uncertainty student athletes, coaches and others have about Arianna. Are we off? And that that weighed heavily to. So you may wanna point to some of the data that you shared with us on some of the issues related to that's community spread in our markets, testing capability and some other things that a high level. But those weighed heavily into this assessment. It certainly is. We a sui review the infection rates in the kinetics of this virus. In each of our communities, we are monitoring several different model ings that are out there through through government and other university resource is and and if you put them all together, the prevailing expectation is that we will you be dealing with Corona virus for some time and this is not going Teoh. You rapidly fall off the curve without some extreme changes in our society and our social behavior. So, you know, looking at those we we do think that there is going to be improvement, and certainly hopefully it will continue to improve. And but it's not gonna disappear. Larry, if I could just follow that up real quick. Um, from the basketball side of things, you guys were scheduled to play a 20 game season with everyone playing twice in December. Uhm, no competition now until January 1st. Do you envision in Avenue where you could still get a 20 game basketball season in If you don't start until January 1st or thereabouts, we've got to go back and work with our working group. We've got a basketball planning working group that's been working on different scenarios, and something just lost depend on what the decides in terms of March Madness and the envelope for the season so well. Obviously stay in close contact with the with the terms of their plans for postseason on and are working. Group is just one of the many things we now have to get to work on. Okay. Our next question will come from Joe Reedy. Joe, your lines open. Larry is far. Christie up a Sfar is your TV contracts with the different networks? How does that this affect them? Especially with possible games in the spring? And also what is the health of the Pac 12 network right now, since the conceivably you're not gonna have any any live events for nine months. So thanks, Joe. I mean, there's no doubt that when we made the decision to go from a normal schedule to compressed reduced conference only schedules and now this decision there their impacts, their impacts for all 12 schools at the conference level in terms of revenue potentially on duh, that's both, you know, with our ESPN Fox agreements as well as Pac 12 networks and importantly at the campus level in terms of attendance and revenue there. So these have been obviously areas of concern and focus, but candidly, that not even come up in the conversation today with our presidents and chancellors, obviously very significant impacts. But it's really about the health, and safety is, I think, the first obligation and duty and the primary primary focus, So there's a lot left to sort out. We stayed in close touch for their partners along. We've got great partnerships and we'll sort it out. But you know these other factors where the key factors in getting to thes conclusions reluctantly and then just a fall up for, Ah, Larry and Ray, have you had any? Any conversations with the with the conference and maybe national players groups since obviously the past couple of days there has been that we want to play and we want to coach Hashtags that have been out. Ray, Maybe you could, uh, you handle that someone's on the coal and having a student athlete involved in Negro your, uh, way had a conversation with them last Monday with the group. I think every Pac 12 team was represented. We thought it was productive. We were listening to their concerns, and so we will have follow up conversations with them as appropriate as this whole situation evolves. But there's been a a ton of things that we've been dealing with and talking about, and we'll circle back to that for sure. Dio Okay, next question will come from Ron Corey, Check. Hi. This is, I guess, for Larry or Ray. Um, I realized, as you said, this was driven by science, This decision. But as the previous question referenced, there's obviously a big financial impact. What do you see as the impact on on each of your 12 schools? I mean, Stanford, as already, but back quite a few sports. Do you? And vision other schools having to follow suit? Um, given what's what's been decided? Well, from my perspective, you know, every institution is gonna have to determine for itself what the way forward is. We're certainly intending and adamant amount continuing the experiences for all of our student athletes and so finances. No question will have an impact. But it's a matter of how you make the appropriate adjustments on both the expense side and the revenue creation side. And we're gonna be working hard toward trend to figure that out. But our view is that this, uh, we're going to get better. The pandemic is a temporary thing. Quality athletics in the Pac 12 is a forever thing. As far as we're concerned, so will deal like any business has to like any organization like any family has to. When you have short term challenges, you figure a way to deal with them and some of them or financial. You figure it out and then you move forward. That's what we intend to do. And I I think all of my athletic director colleagues are having similar thoughts that we are going to figure it out and make our way forward. But will we have some short term pain? Yes, absolutely. But we'll figure it out. And if I could ask one quick follow up question, Obviously it's too early to know what the virus is gonna look like in December January. But if it's possible health wise, two way football on these other fall sports early in 2021 what are the challenges involved in that? I mean, logistically, I would imagine. With the winter and spring sports and everything else going on, that's gonna be ah, difficult. Um, and you sort of address, uh, how that how that might be possible? Uh, you fit a lot if it's if it's feasible. Healthwise, Um, there's there's a lot more work that needs to be done by a football working. Go back. I'd acknowledge that run. But, um, we're gonna exhaust every possibility to leave open that opportunity for student athletes and our purpose. We know how important it is first in efforts to be able to be able to play, to do so safely as possible if it's possible. But we've got to not just for the Pac 12 examine it. Part of its gonna have something to do with pure leagues. And when you know when the dust settles and we see who else is looking at the possibility of a spring, we'll look at that as well in terms what others do. So there's a collaborative aspect of this, a swell as what the Pac 12 wants to do. And yes, it's uncharted territory. There's no question, and it's going to result in a significant strain of resource is on our campuses. If if we wind up taking winter and spring sports and then are looking at false sports on top, so there a lot of concerns. But we've got ah lot of really expert leaders on our campuses that have already spent a significant amount of time on it. We will we'll work through all the details to preserve that possibility. I don't. Next question will come from Dan. Really? Daniel Lines open. Uh, this is for Larry, with some of the other leagues mentioning that they might seek seek games elsewhere. Did that ever come up in your discussions that a Pac 12 team might go play with the surviving teams out there for football? Yeah, you know, President, she'll read comment down this, But I you know, actually, it is difficult is the situation is I think we all are really proud of the cohesiveness, the collaboration, the togetherness and and the spirit. Everyone is in this together and thanks the great leadership on our campuses that we have a very strong culture. And there was really never any serious discussion about not working together in lockstep. So you see that there's there's an agreement that no one's gonna split from this disagreement As faras conference games go present. President Schulken maybe had another voice to this critically not even close. Everybody. Everybody was very enthusiastic about agreeing with each other and and very committed to agreeing with each other about this. We we're proud to be in the Pac 12 right? We think this is the greatest conference. And, uh, we're gonna stick together in this decision. And the decision was unanimous. And that's not unanimous. Meaning that people were against it and then just joined in because they wanted to be good soldiers. It was unanimous because we all recognize this was the morally correct thing to do. And we did it certainly from the athletics perspectives. There was never any talk of anybody peeling off and doing their own thing collaborative together in it from day one. So and we remain that way. All right, next question. Come from Brady McCullough. Uh, hey, this is Ah, this is for ah, Dr Akerman. Um you know, obviously the Israel knowing the viruses is kind of the thing that calls the shots here and a Z. You look at the spring, what could actually change, particularly with something like my card itis in the data that's coming out about that. How could that change over the course of 3 to 4 months? Um, you know, what would you be looking at there that could in any way assuage those concerns and say, you know, it's it's safe to play football certainly will have more time to the follow people who are in this age population who get this illness and determine who has had short term complications from it and get a better sense of what the prevalence of that is, is it? 1% is that 5% is a 20%. Um, the other things that you this virus is not gonna change how it attacks the receptors in the lung tissue or in the mile Cardia. What hopefully will change is the prevalence and how much the viruses out there. And also, you know, how easy are we able to test for how new new testing technologies hopefully will become available to where we can need do even more testing and more rapid testing, um, Teoh, and not create a burden on our health resource is but clearly a decrease in the prevalence of Kobe. It in our environments condemn finitely happen between now and then as long as everybody in our communities work on it. Okay, we've got time for one more question. Next question will come from Kirk Bohls. Kurt, your line is open. Correct? You need a mute your line. Hey, Larry, um, you talk about the health safety and well being of the football players, and I'm sure you guys definitely mean it. But, you know, how could you play two grueling football seasons in the span of the same call calendar year and still honor that commitment? Great question, Nice toe can say. See what? Nice to hear it again. Kirk. Um, that is one of the top questions and considerations. Uh, how many football games could be played in one calendar year? We obviously have a spring portion of the football season, but nothing like, you know, playing a full season. So whether it's a full season compressed season, there's a lot of different scenarios that that folks are looking at. So But you have identified one of the reasons why, you know, considering the spring was not at the top of the list of things you wanted to default, to write it right away. You know, there are gonna be some health and safety considerations of these divvy effect that we've got a fault of football season and the number of games we play. So, you know, we are reluctantly coming to this decision that the earliest that we could start would be in January with a lot of details to figure out, including the point you made, which is a very good one and weighs heavily on. Our coaches are athletics directors are medical personnel, as they think about spring, or I won't call it Spring, Post, January And lastly, Larry, can you even imagine half the country may be playing college football and the other half not and even picture that scenario. Yeah, everyone's gonna make their independent decisions and certainly respect our colleagues. We have been tried to be very collaborative, communicative with our peers across the country. At the end of the day, our presidents and chancellors you looked at what was the best interests of Pac 12 student. Actually, it's based on the advice and frankly, what's going on in our our communities. So, um, yeah, this is just said that this is uncharted territory. This is very unique year. We'll get better. We'll get back to some semblance of normalcy. But people are just trying to figure it out the best they can. I think what student athlete welfare in mind. And that may lead to differences. In what way? Except that all right, that will conclude today's webinar, Gentlemen, Ray Larry. Doug. Michael, Thank you so much for your time this afternoon. Again, this has been recorded and we will distribute a audio and video file to the media following the conclusion of the Webinar again. Thank you.