Should John Swofford Resign ?
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masontom56 Feb 23, 2012
Veteran
In a recent interview, former UNC President William Friday said he no longer attends college sporting events because too much emphasis has been placed on money.
Swofford has pushed the expansion of the league and the contracts with ESPN thereby increasing the TV revenues.
Recently, the addition of 2 more teams has led many to believe that
long standing rivalries and traditions of the ACC are at risk.
Do you think Swofford has sold out the ACC for personal interests and should resign?
If not, what else could be done to save the ACC's core values that made it great in the first place? -
4DORADSTROYA Feb 23, 2012
All Star
I think it is right on track to continue success and all the articles I read about the expansion from different sources were praising his work with the ACC. it seems like most of the issues all come from wolfpack fans and their conspiracy theory. They need to build a bridge and get over it!!
Swofford is a good man and is moving the ACC into always being a premier conference! -
kennywalters Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Simply stated, no.
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buckets112 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
unless he's embezzling money or porking his secretary, then no.
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
I don't think ANY commissioner should have ANY of the member schools on his resume', either as a student or an employee.
it's a clear and concise CONFLICT of INTEREST.
no if, and, or buts. -
kennywalters Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
As stated on another anti-Swofford thread, every single commissioner that the ACC has ever had was associated in some way with one of the member institutions. I imagine if Swofford's background involved any team other than UNC, State fans wouldn't be crying about bias or resignations. Did you call for Corrigan, James, etc. to resign because of their ties to member schools?
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kennywalters Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
The list I posted on the "Disband the ACC" thread on the UNC section of these forums.
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Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
In a recent interview, former UNC President William Friday said he no longer attends college sporting events because too much emphasis has been placed on money.
Swofford has pushed the expansion of the league and the contracts with ESPN thereby increasing the TV revenues.
Recently, the addition of 2 more teams has led many to believe that
long standing rivalries and traditions of the ACC are at risk.
Do you think Swofford has sold out the ACC for personal interests and should resign?
If not, what else could be done to save the ACC's core values that made it great in the first place?
— Posted by masontom56Oh, absolutely. He should have just let the ACC die.
**rolls eyes** -
Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
I don't think ANY commissioner should have ANY of the member schools on his resume', either as a student or an employee.
it's a clear and concise CONFLICT of INTEREST.
no if, and, or buts.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXI'll just shake my head sadly this time.
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FAN72 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
In a recent interview, former UNC President William Friday said he no longer attends college sporting events because too much emphasis has been placed on money.
Swofford has pushed the expansion of the league and the contracts with ESPN thereby increasing the TV revenues.
Recently, the addition of 2 more teams has led many to believe that
long standing rivalries and traditions of the ACC are at risk.
Do you think Swofford has sold out the ACC for personal interests and should resign?
If not, what else could be done to save the ACC's core values that made it great in the first place?
— Posted by masontom56I do not agree that anything done by Mr. Swofford was for personal gain. I do believe that the creation of Super Conferences is the downfall of true rivalries and conference competition.
Go WolfPack! -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
yes.
my statement was a simple one, and one that would NOT be hard to carry out. there would be no shortage of worthy candidates withOUT prior affiliations to choose from... I can assure you.
the "conflict of interest" FACT doesn't change, no matter the school... UNLESS, each school takes TURNS appointing one of their own to run the league... otherwise, it stinks to high heaven.
fair and equitable =/= someone with prior ties to a member school
it's really not that complicated. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
I don't think ANY commissioner should have ANY of the member schools on his resume', either as a student or an employee.
it's a clear and concise CONFLICT of INTEREST.
no if, and, or buts.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
I'll just shake my head sadly this time.
— Posted by Hans
I would too, were I faced with your same plight in life.
melancholy, is your existence. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
When GT and Miami went before the NCAA's investigation team, swofford was NOWHERE to be found.
when unc went before the same board, swofford was flanking their side.
if anyone would care to take a stab at WHY that's the reality of the situation, I'll be more than happy to read it....
stab away. -
Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
By that "logic", I suppose State shouldn't have hired Yow. Her allegiances are probably still with UMD! It wasn't Gary Williams who sabotaged the coaching search, it was YOW!!! Somebody call the conspiracy police!
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Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
By that "logic", I suppose State shouldn't have hired Yow. Her allegiances are probably still with UMD! It wasn't Gary Williams who sabotaged the coaching search, it was YOW!!! Somebody call the conspiracy police!
— Posted by Hans
is State a LEAGUE in itself, that encompasses Md??? what does that scenario you pointed out have to do with THIS discussion????
Do you seriously just wake up this dense????
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXIf you can't figure it out, I feel sorry for you.
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
next, hansy will tell us that hiring TOB away from BC created a conflict of interest for the league.
guffaw at that one's overt LACK of intelligence.
typical though, of a baby blue fan. -
larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
In a recent interview, former UNC President William Friday said he no longer attends college sporting events because too much emphasis has been placed on money.
Swofford has pushed the expansion of the league and the contracts with ESPN thereby increasing the TV revenues.
Recently, the addition of 2 more teams has led many to believe that
long standing rivalries and traditions of the ACC are at risk.
Do you think Swofford has sold out the ACC for personal interests and should resign?
If not, what else could be done to save the ACC's core values that made it great in the first place?
— Posted by masontom56Let me start off by saying I miss the old ACC! I miss the ACC tournament actually meaning something many years ago when there were only 8-9 teams in the league and it wasn't so watered down. I miss the old school gyms like Reynolds and Carmichael and the electricity those places provided! But just like the ACC schools have grown into larger arenas to meet demand due to growth the ACC as a conference has had to do the same thing.
Feel free to look up Swoffords bio and all of his accomplishments since becoming commishener(sp). He had done an outstanding job growing revenue and keeping the teams happy and in place while growing the league.....because he had too! Unfortunately with growth there are casualties sometimes and some of the rivalry games are just that.
If Swofford were not a UNC man we would not be seeing these threads on these boards and all would be well. The rules are the same for all ACC schools....you have the same opportunity as other schools to succeed or not. Some choose to win while others simply don't. In no way does Swofford being the commish have anything to do with that.
He's not going anywhere unless he's ready! Thats a fact! -
Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
In a recent interview, former UNC President William Friday said he no longer attends college sporting events because too much emphasis has been placed on money.
Swofford has pushed the expansion of the league and the contracts with ESPN thereby increasing the TV revenues.
Recently, the addition of 2 more teams has led many to believe that
long standing rivalries and traditions of the ACC are at risk.
Do you think Swofford has sold out the ACC for personal interests and should resign?
If not, what else could be done to save the ACC's core values that made it great in the first place?
— Posted by masontom56
Let me start off by saying I miss the old ACC! I miss the ACC tournament actually meaning something many years ago when there were only 8-9 teams in the league and it wasn't so watered down. I miss the old school gyms like Reynolds and Carmichael and the electricity those places provided! But just like the ACC schools have grown into larger arenas to meet demand due to growth the ACC as a conference has had to do the same thing.
Feel free to look up Swoffords bio and all of his accomplishments since becoming commishener(sp). He had done an outstanding job growing revenue and keeping the teams happy and in place while growing the league.....because he had too! Unfortunately with growth there are casualties sometimes and some of the rivalry games are just that.
If Swofford were not a UNC man we would not be seeing these threads on these boards and all would be well. The rules are the same for all ACC schools....you have the same opportunity as other schools to succeed or not. Some choose to win while others simply don't. In no way does Swofford being the commish have anything to do with that.
He's not going anywhere unless he's ready! Thats a fact!
— Posted by larrys080Agreed 100%
Ignore the lunatic fringe. -
Ken D. Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
"Do you think Swofford has sold out the ACC for personal interests and should resign?"
There are 12 university presidents who make all the decisions for the league. Do you think all of them sold out the ACC for personal interests? Should they all resign? -
kennywalters Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
yes.
my statement was a simple one, and one that would NOT be hard to carry out. there would be no shortage of worthy candidates withOUT prior affiliations to choose from... I can assure you.
the "conflict of interest" FACT doesn't change, no matter the school... UNLESS, each school takes TURNS appointing one of their own to run the league... otherwise, it stinks to high heaven.
fair and equitable =/= someone with prior ties to a member school
it's really not that complicated.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXSo, at the same time many of your brethren are crying about the ACC not keeping "traditional rivalries" sacrosanct, you think that commissioners who know absolutely nothing about the ACC would somehow be better? Honestly, I'm laughing because I doubt very seriously that you cared about the affiliations of any commissioner prior to Swofford and that the only reason you care about his affiliation is because it is with UNC which you loathe.
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Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
yes.
my statement was a simple one, and one that would NOT be hard to carry out. there would be no shortage of worthy candidates withOUT prior affiliations to choose from... I can assure you.
the "conflict of interest" FACT doesn't change, no matter the school... UNLESS, each school takes TURNS appointing one of their own to run the league... otherwise, it stinks to high heaven.
fair and equitable =/= someone with prior ties to a member school
it's really not that complicated.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
So, at the same time many of your brethren are crying about the ACC not keeping "traditional rivalries" sacrosanct, you think that commissioners who know absolutely nothing about the ACC would somehow be better? Honestly, I'm laughing because I doubt very seriously that you cared about the affiliations of any commissioner prior to Swofford and that the only reason you care about his affiliation is because it is with UNC which you loathe.
— Posted by kennywaltersHe makes about as much sense as teats on a boar hog.
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Ken D. Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
yes.
my statement was a simple one, and one that would NOT be hard to carry out. there would be no shortage of worthy candidates withOUT prior affiliations to choose from... I can assure you.
the "conflict of interest" FACT doesn't change, no matter the school... UNLESS, each school takes TURNS appointing one of their own to run the league... otherwise, it stinks to high heaven.
fair and equitable =/= someone with prior ties to a member school
it's really not that complicated.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXDo you believe Gene Corrigan was biased in favor of Duke and Virginia?
Someone with no prior ties to a member school =/= fair and equitable. It only equals no prior ties. The league members, and that doesn't include you or me, believe that having a commissioner who understands and appreciates the culture and tradition of the ACC is better than having someone whose most important quality is being an outsider.
It's really not that complicated. -
BogeyBoy Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
When GT and Miami went before the NCAA's investigation team, swofford was NOWHERE to be found.
when unc went before the same board, swofford was flanking their side.
if anyone would care to take a stab at WHY that's the reality of the situation, I'll be more than happy to read it....
stab away.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXI don't have a problem with the commissioner of the league having a past affiliation with one of the schools but this situation was ill-advised at best.
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
yes.
my statement was a simple one, and one that would NOT be hard to carry out. there would be no shortage of worthy candidates withOUT prior affiliations to choose from... I can assure you.
the "conflict of interest" FACT doesn't change, no matter the school... UNLESS, each school takes TURNS appointing one of their own to run the league... otherwise, it stinks to high heaven.
fair and equitable =/= someone with prior ties to a member school
it's really not that complicated.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
So, at the same time many of your brethren are crying about the ACC not keeping "traditional rivalries" sacrosanct, you think that commissioners who know absolutely nothing about the ACC would somehow be better? Honestly, I'm laughing because I doubt very seriously that you cared about the affiliations of any commissioner prior to Swofford and that the only reason you care about his affiliation is because it is with UNC which you loathe.
— Posted by kennywalters
why do you keep avoiding my point about there being an OBVIOUS conflict of interest??
and
what makes you think running the ACC is different than running any other league in America??? ie- WHO cares what they know about the ACC... what did BUBBA know about "unc athletics" before he was hired on to CLEAN up the mess left him by baddour???
also, no one has ventured a GUESS as to WHY swofford made himself available for unc's NCAA review, but NOT for GT or Miami's....
If that REALITY (every one AVOIDING that question like the plague) shocked me, in any way... I'd gladly say so. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
LOL
coming from a hole fan that pretends to be a State fan...
that's CLASSIC!!!
Bahahahahhhahhhahaaa!!! -
larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
yes.
my statement was a simple one, and one that would NOT be hard to carry out. there would be no shortage of worthy candidates withOUT prior affiliations to choose from... I can assure you.
the "conflict of interest" FACT doesn't change, no matter the school... UNLESS, each school takes TURNS appointing one of their own to run the league... otherwise, it stinks to high heaven.
fair and equitable =/= someone with prior ties to a member school
it's really not that complicated.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
So, at the same time many of your brethren are crying about the ACC not keeping "traditional rivalries" sacrosanct, you think that commissioners who know absolutely nothing about the ACC would somehow be better? Honestly, I'm laughing because I doubt very seriously that you cared about the affiliations of any commissioner prior to Swofford and that the only reason you care about his affiliation is because it is with UNC which you loathe.
— Posted by kennywalters
why do you keep avoiding my point about there being an OBVIOUS conflict of interest??
and
what makes you think running the ACC is different than running any other league in America??? ie- WHO cares what they know about the ACC... what did BUBBA know about "unc athletics" before he was hired on to CLEAN up the mess left him by baddour???
also, no one has ventured a GUESS as to WHY swofford made himself available for unc's NCAA review, but NOT for GT or Miami's....
If that REALITY (every one AVOIDING that question like the plague) shocked me, in any way... I'd gladly say so.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXShould we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
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Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Swofford's job is to improve the ACC. To think that this person is going to show favoritism to one school to the detriment of the rest of the league is beyond dumb.
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
yes.
my statement was a simple one, and one that would NOT be hard to carry out. there would be no shortage of worthy candidates withOUT prior affiliations to choose from... I can assure you.
the "conflict of interest" FACT doesn't change, no matter the school... UNLESS, each school takes TURNS appointing one of their own to run the league... otherwise, it stinks to high heaven.
fair and equitable =/= someone with prior ties to a member school
it's really not that complicated.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
So, at the same time many of your brethren are crying about the ACC not keeping "traditional rivalries" sacrosanct, you think that commissioners who know absolutely nothing about the ACC would somehow be better? Honestly, I'm laughing because I doubt very seriously that you cared about the affiliations of any commissioner prior to Swofford and that the only reason you care about his affiliation is because it is with UNC which you loathe.
— Posted by kennywalters
why do you keep avoiding my point about there being an OBVIOUS conflict of interest??
and
what makes you think running the ACC is different than running any other league in America??? ie- WHO cares what they know about the ACC... what did BUBBA know about "unc athletics" before he was hired on to CLEAN up the mess left him by baddour???
also, no one has ventured a GUESS as to WHY swofford made himself available for unc's NCAA review, but NOT for GT or Miami's....
If that REALITY (every one AVOIDING that question like the plague) shocked me, in any way... I'd gladly say so.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Should we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
— Posted by larrys080
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Swofford's job is to improve the ACC. To think that this person is going to show favoritism to one school to the detriment of the rest of the league is beyond dumb.
— Posted by Hans
then it shouldn't be too hard for you to explain WHY swofford felt the need to be at unc's investigative hearing, and NOT at GT or Miami's.
right???
hurry back with that. -
larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
So, at the same time many of your brethren are crying about the ACC not keeping "traditional rivalries" sacrosanct, you think that commissioners who know absolutely nothing about the ACC would somehow be better? Honestly, I'm laughing because I doubt very seriously that you cared about the affiliations of any commissioner prior to Swofford and that the only reason you care about his affiliation is because it is with UNC which you loathe.
— Posted by kennywalters
why do you keep avoiding my point about there being an OBVIOUS conflict of interest??
and
what makes you think running the ACC is different than running any other league in America??? ie- WHO cares what they know about the ACC... what did BUBBA know about "unc athletics" before he was hired on to CLEAN up the mess left him by baddour???
also, no one has ventured a GUESS as to WHY swofford made himself available for unc's NCAA review, but NOT for GT or Miami's....
If that REALITY (every one AVOIDING that question like the plague) shocked me, in any way... I'd gladly say so.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Should we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
— Posted by larrys080
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXEducate me on how the office is run. I just pay attention to the sports that are being played not the behind the scenes BS! So a conference commish has the power of a dictator and can do whatever he/she wants? Wow.........
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Jacob Summ3rs Feb 23, 2012
All Star
I don't think ANY commissioner should have ANY of the member schools on his resume', either as a student or an employee.
it's a clear and concise CONFLICT of INTEREST.
no if, and, or buts.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
I'll just shake my head sadly this time.
— Posted by Hans
I would too, were I faced with your same plight in life.
melancholy, is your existence.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXAnd fantasy land is yours.
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Ken D. Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
So, at the same time many of your brethren are crying about the ACC not keeping "traditional rivalries" sacrosanct, you think that commissioners who know absolutely nothing about the ACC would somehow be better? Honestly, I'm laughing because I doubt very seriously that you cared about the affiliations of any commissioner prior to Swofford and that the only reason you care about his affiliation is because it is with UNC which you loathe.
— Posted by kennywalters
why do you keep avoiding my point about there being an OBVIOUS conflict of interest??
and
what makes you think running the ACC is different than running any other league in America??? ie- WHO cares what they know about the ACC... what did BUBBA know about "unc athletics" before he was hired on to CLEAN up the mess left him by baddour???
also, no one has ventured a GUESS as to WHY swofford made himself available for unc's NCAA review, but NOT for GT or Miami's....
If that REALITY (every one AVOIDING that question like the plague) shocked me, in any way... I'd gladly say so.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Should we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
— Posted by larrys080
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXYou seem to be forgetting about the 12 member presidents whom he answers to.
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
why do you keep avoiding my point about there being an OBVIOUS conflict of interest??
and
what makes you think running the ACC is different than running any other league in America??? ie- WHO cares what they know about the ACC... what did BUBBA know about "unc athletics" before he was hired on to CLEAN up the mess left him by baddour???
also, no one has ventured a GUESS as to WHY swofford made himself available for unc's NCAA review, but NOT for GT or Miami's....
If that REALITY (every one AVOIDING that question like the plague) shocked me, in any way... I'd gladly say so.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Should we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
— Posted by larrys080
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Educate me on how the office is run. I just pay attention to the sports that are being played not the behind the scenes BS! So a conference commish has the power of a dictator and can do whatever he/she wants? Wow.........
— Posted by larrys080
did he or did he NOT attend unc's NCAA hearing???
did he or did he NOT attend miami or GT's hearings??? -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
why do you keep avoiding my point about there being an OBVIOUS conflict of interest??
and
what makes you think running the ACC is different than running any other league in America??? ie- WHO cares what they know about the ACC... what did BUBBA know about "unc athletics" before he was hired on to CLEAN up the mess left him by baddour???
also, no one has ventured a GUESS as to WHY swofford made himself available for unc's NCAA review, but NOT for GT or Miami's....
If that REALITY (every one AVOIDING that question like the plague) shocked me, in any way... I'd gladly say so.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Should we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
— Posted by larrys080
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
You seem to be forgetting about the 12 member presidents whom he answers to.
— Posted by Ken D.
so, you think he bounced the idea of ONLY going to unc's investigative hearing (in the spirit of making sure a member school wasn't taken advantage of) and NOT going to other affected school's hearings, off of the other school's presidents BEFORE doing just that???
well then, a LINK should be real easy to find. -
larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Swofford's job is to improve the ACC. To think that this person is going to show favoritism to one school to the detriment of the rest of the league is beyond dumb.
— Posted by Hans
then it shouldn't be too hard for you to explain WHY swofford felt the need to be at unc's investigative hearing, and NOT at GT or Miami's.
right???
hurry back with that.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXDo we have confirmation that Swofford was invited to the GT and Miami hearings? I have no idea, just asking.
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Swofford's job is to improve the ACC. To think that this person is going to show favoritism to one school to the detriment of the rest of the league is beyond dumb.
— Posted by Hans
then it shouldn't be too hard for you to explain WHY swofford felt the need to be at unc's investigative hearing, and NOT at GT or Miami's.
right???
hurry back with that.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Do we have confirmation that Swofford was invited to the GT and Miami hearings? I have no idea, just asking.
— Posted by larrys080
he IS the ACC commisioner, and THEY ARE member schools... only seems reasonable that he would have REQUESTED to have been there, if he intended on attending another member school's IDENTICAL type hearing.
no??? -
larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Should we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
— Posted by larrys080
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
You seem to be forgetting about the 12 member presidents whom he answers to.
— Posted by Ken D.
so, you think he bounced the idea of ONLY going to unc's investigative hearing (in the spirit of making sure a member school wasn't taken advantage of) and NOT going to other affected school's hearings, off of the other school's presidents BEFORE doing just that???
well then, a LINK should be real easy to find.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXNot to nit/pic here but it sounds like you are basing your opinion on one thing......the hearings?
Have these 2 schools complained about him not going? Did they invite him? Did they ask him to stay away? -
larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Swofford's job is to improve the ACC. To think that this person is going to show favoritism to one school to the detriment of the rest of the league is beyond dumb.
— Posted by Hans
then it shouldn't be too hard for you to explain WHY swofford felt the need to be at unc's investigative hearing, and NOT at GT or Miami's.
right???
hurry back with that.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Do we have confirmation that Swofford was invited to the GT and Miami hearings? I have no idea, just asking.
— Posted by larrys080
he IS the ACC commisioner, and THEY ARE member schools... only seems reasonable that he would have REQUESTED to have been there, if he intended on attending another member school's IDENTICAL type hearing.
no???
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXDont you think if it were an issue that these schools would be blasting him in the public eye?
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
You seem to be forgetting about the 12 member presidents whom he answers to.
— Posted by Ken D.
so, you think he bounced the idea of ONLY going to unc's investigative hearing (in the spirit of making sure a member school wasn't taken advantage of) and NOT going to other affected school's hearings, off of the other school's presidents BEFORE doing just that???
well then, a LINK should be real easy to find.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Not to nit/pic here but it sounds like you are basing your opinion on one thing......the hearings?
Have these 2 schools complained about him not going? Did they invite him? Did they ask him to stay away?
— Posted by larrys080
I simply posed a question that NO ONE has answered....
and, if they did not invite him, then when he was invited by another member school, the FAIR and EQUITABLE thing to do would have been to politely reject their invitation based on the REALITY that he hadn't attended other member school's IDENTICAL meeting, and thus felt like that would show favortism.
alas, that's the FAIR and EQUITABLE thing to do, and you can't rightly expect that to happen when you have a former employee of one school supposedly doing what's best for 12 schools. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
then it shouldn't be too hard for you to explain WHY swofford felt the need to be at unc's investigative hearing, and NOT at GT or Miami's.
right???
hurry back with that.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Do we have confirmation that Swofford was invited to the GT and Miami hearings? I have no idea, just asking.
— Posted by larrys080
he IS the ACC commisioner, and THEY ARE member schools... only seems reasonable that he would have REQUESTED to have been there, if he intended on attending another member school's IDENTICAL type hearing.
no???
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Dont you think if it were an issue that these schools would be blasting him in the public eye?
— Posted by larrys080
why?? not everyone takes their disdain for injustice to the "public eye".
btw- you have STILL NOT answered the question.
was him going to ONLY unc's hearing what is best for someone that purports to hold ALL 12 school's best interests in mind???
yes or no?
thanks. -
Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
The hardest part of being a State fan is not only do you have to deal with the constant losing, but you also have to deal with the fact that a good chunk of your fellow fans are completely off their rockers.
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
^^^^LOL, it says whilst STILL avoiding the posed question like the plague.
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masontom56 Feb 23, 2012
Veteran
Did you know, that several of the more successful ACC coaches were against the last expansion and....were against the ESPN contract requiring them to play in Sunday night games.....but were told to "get with the program" ?
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Ken D. Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Should we have a foreigner as the President of the United States? Way too much conflict if you are a citizen.....right?
— Posted by larrys080
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
You seem to be forgetting about the 12 member presidents whom he answers to.
— Posted by Ken D.
so, you think he bounced the idea of ONLY going to unc's investigative hearing (in the spirit of making sure a member school wasn't taken advantage of) and NOT going to other affected school's hearings, off of the other school's presidents BEFORE doing just that???
well then, a LINK should be real easy to find.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXYou know, I've been a boss, and I've had a boss. There's nothing in the rules for being a boss that says you can only exercise oversight and control if an employee bounces something by you.
As for your comment about finding links, that's too stupid to even address.
You made your position on this quite clear in another thread a few days ago. You said, in so many words, Swofford had to go because you just can't trust any "Tarhole". I accept that this is your rationale - nothing more, nothing less. It is a statement that shows such severe bias on your part that nothing else you say carries any weight.
You may have fooled yourself into believing the arguments you make here, but you're not fooling anybody else. Your entire argument is nothing but smack talk, and not even clever smack talk. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
I never made any such claim.
why LIE???
also- you have still FAILED to answer my question..... that, is REALITY.
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larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
Do we have confirmation that Swofford was invited to the GT and Miami hearings? I have no idea, just asking.
— Posted by larrys080
he IS the ACC commisioner, and THEY ARE member schools... only seems reasonable that he would have REQUESTED to have been there, if he intended on attending another member school's IDENTICAL type hearing.
no???
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
Dont you think if it were an issue that these schools would be blasting him in the public eye?
— Posted by larrys080
why?? not everyone takes their disdain for injustice to the "public eye".
btw- you have STILL NOT answered the question.
was him going to ONLY unc's hearing what is best for someone that purports to hold ALL 12 school's best interests in mind???
yes or no?
thanks.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIXThe answer to your question is simple.......we have no idea (or at least I don't) what goes on behind closed doors. Its possible the other schools didn't need him to appear even if he did offer. If thats the case thats hardly his fault and yes it was ok if he went to UNC's hearing if they requested him too.
If Miami and GT requested him too and he didn't then yes thats a problem. If that was the case though, with the media the way it is now we would already know. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
it doesn't take knowing what's gone on behind closed doors to answer ^^^that question.
sorry. -
larrys080 Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
you could reach a lil further, if you had sam perkins' sleeve length.
the President has checks and balances under him to prevent any FAVORTISM... the acc commissioner???
try again.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
You seem to be forgetting about the 12 member presidents whom he answers to.
— Posted by Ken D.
so, you think he bounced the idea of ONLY going to unc's investigative hearing (in the spirit of making sure a member school wasn't taken advantage of) and NOT going to other affected school's hearings, off of the other school's presidents BEFORE doing just that???
well then, a LINK should be real easy to find.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
You know, I've been a boss, and I've had a boss. There's nothing in the rules for being a boss that says you can only exercise oversight and control if an employee bounces something by you.
As for your comment about finding links, that's too stupid to even address.
You made your position on this quite clear in another thread a few days ago. You said, in so many words, Swofford had to go because you just can't trust any "Tarhole". I accept that this is your rationale - nothing more, nothing less. It is a statement that shows such severe bias on your part that nothing else you say carries any weight.
You may have fooled yourself into believing the arguments you make here, but you're not fooling anybody else. Your entire argument is nothing but smack talk, and not even clever smack talk.
— Posted by Ken D.Ken, we all know this is a UNC thing and thats it! If the commish was a NCSU grad we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I'm just waiting for some facts that suggests that he has shown favortism. Not going is only a partial fact because we have no idea what was said behind the scenes by the schools involved. Some people just hate and can't get past that. -
Hans Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
You seem to be forgetting about the 12 member presidents whom he answers to.
— Posted by Ken D.
so, you think he bounced the idea of ONLY going to unc's investigative hearing (in the spirit of making sure a member school wasn't taken advantage of) and NOT going to other affected school's hearings, off of the other school's presidents BEFORE doing just that???
well then, a LINK should be real easy to find.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX
You know, I've been a boss, and I've had a boss. There's nothing in the rules for being a boss that says you can only exercise oversight and control if an employee bounces something by you.
As for your comment about finding links, that's too stupid to even address.
You made your position on this quite clear in another thread a few days ago. You said, in so many words, Swofford had to go because you just can't trust any "Tarhole". I accept that this is your rationale - nothing more, nothing less. It is a statement that shows such severe bias on your part that nothing else you say carries any weight.
You may have fooled yourself into believing the arguments you make here, but you're not fooling anybody else. Your entire argument is nothing but smack talk, and not even clever smack talk.
— Posted by Ken D.
Ken, we all know this is a UNC thing and thats it! If the commish was a NCSU grad we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I'm just waiting for some facts that suggests that he has shown favortism. Not going is only a partial fact because we have no idea what was said behind the scenes by the schools involved. Some people just hate and can't get past that.
— Posted by larrys080I wouldn't wait too long - you'll start to grow roots!
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WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
when having a member school's ex employee answering for ALL 12 member schools stops being a clear and concise "conflict of interest", then I will be wrong.
no sooner.
it is what it is... REALITY. -
WPITH-REMIX Feb 23, 2012
Sports Legend
oh, and LOL at "partial fact"... that's CLASSIC!!!
that almost sounds like something we'd read in a tweet from manteets.
typical.
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it's a clear and concise CONFLICT of INTEREST.
no if, and, or buts.
— Posted by WPITH-REMIX