Greatest coach - Dean Smith or Mike Krzyzewski?

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• 903 mens national championships May 11, 2013
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  It says Dean is older than K and has already retired. Coach K has done and keeps doing more.

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• daviepoplar85 May 11, 2013
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  LOL
  
  Indeed it does......
  
  Indeed it does.

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• BeastOfTheHill May 11, 2013
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  its easy...
  
  THE DEAN E. SMITH CENTER!!!
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  lil coach k court.
  
  I think that says it all.
  
  

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• fearthewhiteguy May 11, 2013
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  uhm obviousely K... lol

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• daviepoplar85 May 11, 2013
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  14-24 clearly has this one's bonnet full of bees tonight.
  
  Poor widda fing!

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• Ramslayer May 10, 2013
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  Desperation and failure to embrace reality keeps the Tarholes coming back.......Duke has Won 25 of the last 36 Games vs UNC -- that just feels so good to say. You pitiful losers should go back to your on pitiful teams thread or watch baseball or some other sport. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA

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• BattlingBishop 5 May 10, 2013
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  :)

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• Spirit of Evilash May 10, 2013
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  #Old School TV.

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• BattlingBishop 5 May 9, 2013
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  lol.... great show.

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• Toddler10-21 May 9, 2013
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  I remember him ship. The white shadow one of my favorites when I was growing up!

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• BattlingBishop 5 May 9, 2013
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  Good choice but I'm going with former Chicago Bull & Carver High coach Ken Reeves....
  
  http://www.youtube.com/embed/geheKbxDR0g

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• Toddler10-21 May 9, 2013
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  John Wooden!!!!

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• daviepoplar85 May 7, 2013
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  none too bright, that one.
  
  none too bright.
  
  wow.

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• kato_karma.v5 May 7, 2013
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  Come on kimora...
  
  rather weak sauce coming out of Tarboro lately.
  
  kato's specific statement..."the ACC AND nation" above and on the first post of the prior page.
  
  boy oh boy...

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• Ramslayer May 7, 2013
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  Two great coaches and two great programs and two different times. Any honest, objective person knows that today Coach K stands alone as the best all time. All this forum is about is DUKE vs UNC. And UNC is mostly represented by losers who hate and disrespect coach K and there is clearly a whole lot of you. SO why bother. Blah blah blah

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• kmorsreturn May 7, 2013
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  I see kato slowly backing out of this one.....first it was the country and now the ACC.....unc fans....oh boy

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• kato_karma.v5 May 7, 2013
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  Mehh...
  
  rotary should not mistake kato correction of rotary's homeristic kiwi tilt for hurt feelings...
  
  simply clarifying that dook was one of the top programs in the ACC and nation when kiwi stepped into Cameroon.

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• rx74u2nv May 7, 2013
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  Taken from one of the better programs to not win a title to one of the best programs with 4 titles.
  
  Why does this hurt your feeling so?
  
  

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• thatrollslayer May 7, 2013
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  Both are great. K gets the edge because of titles.

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• kato_karma.v5 May 7, 2013
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  oh boy!!!

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• kmorsreturn May 7, 2013
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  oh boy....

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• kato_karma.v5 May 7, 2013
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  Come on, rotary -- kiwi has done a credible job at dook...
  
  but no need to deny that the guy came into one of the best situations in the country.
  
  That comes across as quite homeristic.

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• rx74u2nv May 7, 2013
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  Yep. Duke was a well established up and coming program. K has taken them to the pinacle.
  
  Maybe you should look up hater.
  
  Lol Derp!

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• kato_karma.v5 May 7, 2013
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  Maybe you should research the term 'homer'.
  
  by the time kiwi came to Durm, dook had a very well established and successful basketball program (by ACC and national standards).

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• rx74u2nv May 6, 2013
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  What year had they won it all previous to K?
  
  Maybe you should research the phrase up and coming.

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• VT1994Hokie May 6, 2013
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  Both are ICON's in the game of basketball, and any negatives will have to rest for those that want to hate on a school. I truly can't see anyone knocking Dean Smith as he is in his closing days of life.

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• weakened back May 6, 2013
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  Dean=Billy Graham
  kay=jimmy swaggart

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• VT1994Hokie May 6, 2013
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  ^^^ I appreciate Coach K honoring him a few years ago. Dean wasn't even himself then. Long live Dean Smith.

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• StunGunn May 6, 2013
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  I remember reading years ago that Dean said he left the game because of all the other things involved, but he still loved coaching. Dean is/was a gentleman. He didn't curse. One of the things I also read about is the Duke/Carolina game where things got heated between Dean and K. As Dean was walking away after a heated exchange, K yelled after him, "Hey Dean - BLEEP you!" Hate that K said that, but every man is different, and when K insisted Dean also be awarded the Sportsmanship Award a few years ago, does speak highly about K and his values. K and Dean may not have been friends, but I think they shared a mutual respect for each other. Every time I think about Dean, K and Roy, I think about how fortunate we are to have these men coaching the teams we pull for. It doesn't get any better, and I'm going to hate it when Roy and K retire. No one will ever be able to replace them.

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• VT1994Hokie May 6, 2013
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  I grew up watching UNC, Wake, Duke, and State. Dean Smith was the greatest innovator since the game was invented. All teams copy what he did today. His Four Corners came from a black coach years ago in the 60's. Dean made lessor coaches think about how to use fouls near the end of a tight game. Dean was a master in doing this. He could milk the clock better than all before him, and his tight wins proves this point out. I have written this previously on the Sportsfan.
  
  Coach K has won on every level. His wins at Duke says it all. The number of wins is in the books. But. Coach K led two Olympic teams to two Golds. His NC's are there. He will win at least one more before he retires in my opinion. Dean and K came from different eras. The game has totally changed since Dean coached. Both are ICONS in coaching. In the end Coach K will have to be on top of all coaches. His NC's, wins in general, and those two Gold Medals put him way beyond all others.

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• Wolfpocalypse Now aka Your Dad May 6, 2013
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  I completely agree, TB. Dean Smith could make the last couple of minutes of a game feel like an eternity. UNC could be down 12 pts with a minute to go, and the game was still FAR from over.
  
  However, looking at both careers completely objectively, I don't think there's a viable argument that Smith was the better coach out of the two. Don't get me wrong, Dean Smith was a GREAT coach (as well as an awesome person and ambassador for the game), but the numbers don't lie - Coach K trounces Smith when you compare their careers.

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• Spirit of Evilash May 6, 2013
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  +1,000,000,000 . Also felt one of the phil ford teams and the 83-84 team. Dean was principled to a fault. It would be interesting how todays game would have shaped Deans coaching, and vice-versa with K.

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• JACKSONSAWYERRETURNS May 6, 2013
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  DEPENDS ON WHICH SCHOOL YOU HAVE ATTENDED BUT AS AN OUTSIDER I think K GETS IT

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• BeastOfTheHill May 6, 2013
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  no doubt about it. coming back to win a game down 8 with 17 ticks left on the clock was unreal. and, no 3 point baskets either.
  
  and, it was against dook too!
  
  LOL! Nice work Coach Smith.

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• StunGunn May 6, 2013
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  Dean stepping down RIGHT before the '97/'98 season is the ONE thing Dean did that I didn't think was fair - to the players, fans, program.
  
  As for stubbornness, I agree, it may have cost the Heels a title. Roy is also too stubborn at times as well.
  
  I still wouldn't trade Dean or Roy for ANY other coach. Ever.

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• StunGunn May 6, 2013
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  Totally agree about Dean and end of game situations. I remember one game where the Heels were losing, with less than a minute left, and Dean called a T/O (and we all know how he hated to call those), and he told the guys, "We're the lucky ones", and he calmly devised a play, the guys executed it and Carolina won! Dean has such a brilliant basketball mind.

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• Spirit of Evilash May 6, 2013
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  You're welcome. No excuses for Dean, he had the horses a few times to win it all and I do think his stubborness got in the way of winning it. For example he gave away a title when he handed Gut the Jamison/Carter team. Dean probably thought even Gut can win a title with those guys.
  
  I thought you were tired of me bashing the trolls. Make up your mind. B)

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• Spirit of Evilash May 6, 2013
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  Yep. Liz Clayman is also RED HOT. If you ever hear her on the radio, maybe the best female bedroom voice ever on planet earth. Imus used to have her on and the guys had trouble getting throught the segment. Nicole Petallides is smokin.

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• BeastOfTheHill May 6, 2013
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  I think ratk has the entire "looks terrible" department completely wrapped up solid across all of college basketball. nose, face and all. YUK!
  
  

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• rx74u2nv May 6, 2013
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  Who has the uglier nose? That is a question for the masses!!!!!

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• kato_karma.v5 May 6, 2013
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  Agreed, TB on Dean's late-game strategies.
  
  That said, 2 areas that stick out...
  
  -not adjusting to other teams "hot" player: Dean seem to be hard-headed about double-teaming, going to a box-in-one, triangle in 2, etc...whereas coaches like V simply would not let 1 player beat him
  
  -not feeding the ball to our "hot" players: focusing on a balanced offense was VERY productive over the regular season, but in big games, the difference is quite often determined by "riding the hot hand" (although Dean did ride Donald Williams in 1993)

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• Unc r Hypocrits May 6, 2013
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  I always thought Dean's end-of-game strategies were the best I had ever seen. The man could extend the last minute of a game 30 minutes, if he was behind. One of the most brilliant minds for that, IMHWPO, I've EVER seen. The truth is the truth.

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• Unc r Hypocrits May 6, 2013
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  Watching Dana Perino with Meagan Kelly on FoxNews. 2 hotties for the price of 1!!! OMG!!!

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• JACKSONSAWYER IS SUPREME May 6, 2013
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  Dean had his gimmicks (4 corners etc) but when it came bench coach he was not among the best, the talent got him a lot of wins not coaching, recruiting was his best asset

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  Look Smitty, I think they are BOTH great coaches, but, your post seemed like a lot of excuse-making. I almost spit out my Coke, reading your mess. :B)

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  As stated above, a subjective argument. Probably can't get the "experts" to agree on it. Both great at what they do (or did).
  
  This could go on forever, and everyone will be right. :)

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• rx74u2nv May 6, 2013
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  I guess no one develops after college. Sure, let's credit the all stars and HOF to Deans 3 years with them instead of the players or coaching staff at the pro level. Certainly 3 years with Dean > talent and 10 years of pro coaching. UNC fans are not arrogant at all. LOL
  
  Again this arguement swings K's way. Look at the teams that Dean won titles with. Now count the NBA all stars on those teams. Did Dean ever win a title with less than 2-3 NBA all stars on a team?

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• larrys080 .v1 May 6, 2013
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  Both coaches have had PLENTY of talent! Dean developed his players into all stars and HOF players. Still waiting on the FIRST great Duke player at the NBA level. Maybe Kyrie..........since he ONLY played 11 games under K he might actually have a chance!

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  LOL.
  
  well-established and wealthy private school focusing primary attention and $ to basketball = gimmick.
  
  

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• rx74u2nv May 6, 2013
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  I meantioned most wins? UNC fans and their reading comprehension...
  
  I said a complete body of work and said that the head to head was subjective.
  
  K did more with less talent compared to the field than Dean versus the field.
  
  UNC fans are very arrogant about Dean as this mysterious way that Dean kept himself from winning titles by following ethics. OMG wipe your chin lol.
  
  Evil, you are the one that is confused. You should reread my and your post and just delete what you said as it in no way followed my post or any of it's content.
  
  To recap; Cool story bro, but I never meantioned K being the WINNINGEST MEN'S D1 COACH OF ALL TIME BY FAR AND STILL GOING. I figured everyone here already knew that but thatk you for naming yet another reason he should be considered the better coach. More wins, more titles, less talented players, less developed college, no gimmicks.

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